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[Ride_Red]

Some times I wonder why HONDA recommend 10W30 and don't care about engine longevity.
That's a reason mention an example on another post...
XR650L (the same engine from 90's and today recommend 10W30, for environmental health and fuel economy... If engine wear shorter time doesn't matter... As a company I say 10W30 to all)
I will try 20W50 next time on my FMX 650.

I've been running 10W-30 in my Honda NC700X for 16K miles to get the best fuel economy I can as a commuter bike. It runs great, doesn't use any oil between changes and the oil is a dark amber color after 4000-5000 miles on the oil. I hit a sale on Amazon for a couple of cases of the Castrol 4T 10W-30 and used it exclusively in the NC700X. Many guys on the NC700X forum have accumulated much higher mileage than me on their bikes using 10W-30. So, with today's oil technology, I conclude that 10W-30 is a reasonable recommendation by Honda.

With that said, I ran 10W-40 in my Honda ST1300 for 40K miles and am now running 10W-40 in my Africa Twin. Honda specifies 10W-30 for both bikes, but 10W-40 is more easily available than 10W-30 motorcycle oil in my area.

 

[TrialKid]

I've been running 10W-30 in my Honda NC700X for 16K miles to get the best fuel economy I can as a commuter bike. It runs great, doesn't use any oil between changes and the oil is a dark amber color after 4000-5000 miles on the oil. I hit a sale on Amazon for a couple of cases of the Castrol 4T 10W-30 and used it exclusively in the NC700X. Many guys on the NC700X forum have accumulated much higher mileage than me on their bikes using 10W-30. So, with today's oil technology, I conclude that 10W-30 is a reasonable recommendation by Honda.

With that said, I ran 10W-40 in my Honda ST1300 for 40K miles and am now running 10W-40 in my Africa Twin. Honda specifies 10W-30 for both bikes, but 10W-40 is more easily available than 10W-30 motorcycle oil in my area.

Yes they are water cooled, on water cooled you can run and 0W30.
On XR650L engine's (same used on FMX 650) 10W40 was suggest by Honda on my 2005 manual (I have 20 years the manual in my staff) and also exist the alternative viscosities according to climate change.
On new sales they suggest 10W30 for that 30 years old motors without a single change.
I assume for some how they need on future to sell new bikes and if they don't fail...
Anyway I run Amsoil DirtBike 10W50 and as Bonz said see me on 20W50 (want to see gearbox with that viscosity, bike has 65.000km until today)

 

[ZeeOSix]

I will try 20W50 next time on my FMX 650.

10W-40 seems to be the most recommended oil viscosity for motorcycles. What's the owner's manual spec for that engine?

 

[TrialKid]

10W-40 seems to be the most recommended oil viscosity for motorcycles. What's the owner's manual spec for that engine?

10W40 but also show until 50W according to outside temps

 

[DibroTeam]

2019 Ktm Duke 790, 600 miles

Out: 3 previous oil services with unnown brand
In: Maxima Extra 4 15w50, 3 qts. K&N oil filter

 

[Finn]

FLSTS
out Valvoline VR1 20W50 + HiFlo HF170B
in Valvoline VR1 20W50 + HiFlo HF170B

FLHR
out Valvoline VR1 20W50 + HiFlo HF170B
in Valvoline VR1 20W50 + HiFlo HF170B

 

[Pete491]

2006 Kawasaki Ninja 650r 10, 500 miles on the ODO.

Out: Mobil 1 4t 10w40 hf 303 filter
In: Mobil 1 4t 10w40 hf 303 filter.

Approx 2,500 miles on oil as I do one change per season regardless of mileage.

Mobil 1 has been my go to oil at this price point. Have run valvoline motorcycle 10w40 syn before but prefer the shifts using the Mobil 1. Castrol power I may be my next change as Amazon has a sale

 

[VersysVsWhat]

Bought my bike (new) towards the tail end of winter. After 80 or so miles, dumped the I'm assuming Kawasaki oil in it (from a dealer), and put in Mobil 1 Euro 0w-40 FS (recent iteration). Put about another 650 miles on it, and then just a couple of days ago dumped that and put Motul 7100 15w-50 in it. Have not changed the filter yet though (having done such an early oil change, I think that probably reduced the amount of debris loading quite a bit).

Will run that for about a thousand miles and then will dump that and put the rest of the Motul in, and then change the filter (not sure which one yet).

After that, will put HPL 15w-50 in.

 

[bike]

2024 Suzuki DL800 VStrom……600 mile first service.
A 50/50 blend of Rotella T6 5-40 synthetic and T6 15-40 regular oil and a HiFloFiltro HF138 oil filter.

 

[Finn]

-99 R1100RT

out: Valvoline VR1 20W50 + Mann MW 712
in: Valvoline VR1 20W50 + Mann MW 712

 

[02SE]

2018 Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale

Out: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter
In: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter

 

[SCOOTERTOM69]

2007 Honda Shadow Aero 750 (bought new in '06)
65,000 miles, 3,000 mile OCI.
Out: Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15w-40
Fram TG7317 filter

In: 3 qts Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15w-40
Fram TG7317

Major service
Also replaced spark plugs, drain & fill coolant, drain & fill final drive, clean & oil K & N air filter.
New tires & battery.

 

[02SE]

'20 S1000RR M

Out: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter
In: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter

'15 S1000RR

Out: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter
In: Motul 300V 4T 15w50 + OE filter

 

[bioilcurious]

24 cbr600rr.
I have been racking up miles these past 2 months and forgot to post.

14,325 miles
Out: Honda HP4RU OEM filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N Filter

16,585 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter

19,230 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter

20,305 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Honda HP4RU OEM filter

I switched back to OEM filter on the latest because I got paranoid that the nut would leak on the K&N. So, I torque my OEM filters now, no more hand tight. I switched back to Honda HP4RU oil because I also got paranoid that the Klotz wasn’t good enough. I have trackdays coming up and have been running fast in the canyons*. I run oil 2-3k miles because any more, and it seems my shifting starts to suffer, and the bike runs a tad hotter. That is not scientific, though.

*AT THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS, OBEYING ALL TRAFFIC LAWS

 

[BusyLittleShop]

24 cbr600rr.
I have been racking up miles these past 2 months and forgot to post.

*AT THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS, OBEYING ALL TRAFFIC LAWS

...and no tickets??? Mercy!!! Sport Bikes are awful at lawful speeds...

I saved your info because it's more evidence that a 30 grade will meet and exceed our mileage expectations...

 

[Bonz]

24 cbr600rr.
I have been racking up miles these past 2 months and forgot to post.

14,325 miles
Out: Honda HP4RU OEM filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N Filter

16,585 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter

19,230 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter

20,305 miles
Out: Klotz 10w30 K&N filter
In: Honda HP4RU OEM filter

I switched back to OEM filter on the latest because I got paranoid that the nut would leak on the K&N. So, I torque my OEM filters now, no more hand tight. I switched back to Honda HP4RU oil because I also got paranoid that the Klotz wasn’t good enough. I have trackdays coming up and have been running fast in the canyons*. I run oil 2-3k miles because any more, and it seems my shifting starts to suffer, and the bike runs a tad hotter. That is not scientific, though.

*AT THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS, OBEYING ALL TRAFFIC LAWS

Good on you for letting the 10w30 oil and bike tell you when it's time to change the oil with respect to shift quality. That to me is a sign oil is not holding up. Shift quality is a very real element to riding safety and enjoyment.

I can't tell if the Asterix * is tongue in cheek or not. If it's tongue in cheek I get your point, if you're running it hard obeying laws and obeying speed limits, those are counter to each other.

With respect, none of those oil changes went 3,000 miles, anywhere from 1100 to about 2,800 miles is what I'm seeing. If shift quality is falling off that fast, the oil is not meeting the expectation I would look for. Given that Honda probably recommends a 7500 mile oil change interval or longer on that bike. Please share if that's not correct.

The beginning and end of motorcycle oils based on analysis and use with 5,000 Mi oci's and not losing shift quality is M1 10w40 4T. Many guys run it and there has not been a negative report. The lighter oils have less favorable results sprinkled in if you read up on things around here for the lighter weight oils in higher RPM and heavier use situations.

There is one voice here that promotes 10w30. That should be enough to show that's not the bandwagon of choice.

 

[bioilcurious]

Good on you for letting the 10w30 oil and bike tell you when it's time to change the oil with respect to shift quality. That to me is a sign oil is not holding up. Shift quality is a very real element to riding safety and enjoyment.

I can't tell if the Asterix * is tongue in cheek or not. If it's tongue in cheek I get your point, if you're running it hard obeying laws and obeying speed limits, those are counter to each other.

With respect, none of those oil changes went 3,000 miles, anywhere from 1100 to about 2,800 miles is what I'm seeing. If shift quality is falling off that fast, the oil is not meeting the expectation I would look for. Given that Honda probably recommends a 7500 mile oil change interval or longer on that bike. Please share if that's not correct.

The beginning and end of motorcycle oils based on analysis and use with 5,000 Mi oci's and not losing shift quality is M1 10w40 4T. Many guys run it and there has not been a negative report. The lighter oils have less favorable results sprinkled in if you read up on things around here for the lighter weight oils in higher RPM and heavier use situations.

There is one voice here that promotes 10w30. That should be enough to show that's not the bandwagon of choice.

Greetings, @Bonz. I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I'm going to run this HP4RU oil and play it by ear when it comes to shift quality and mileage, but ultimately, I plan to send it off for a UOA. I still have enough for one more HP4RU change after that, so I’ll send that one off for a UOA as well.

Currently, I have roughly 1,030 miles on this recent change (HP4RU), and the shifts have been flawless—smooth, precise, with no accidental neutrals, no notchy gears, or anything.

Honda is pretty confident with this oil, as they say it is backward compatible with motorcycles requiring 10W-40. I trust those Japanese engineers over there know what they’re doing, but you never know!

 

[Bonz]

To my knowledge engine tolerances haven't changed and there was a reason they recommended 10W-40 in the first place, I understand the backwards compatible. A number of my cars have gone to lighter weight oils in the backwards compatibility world over the years but that's purely for Cafe MPG numbers. I'm sure there's similar reasoning with respect to motorcycles backwards compatibility with lighter weight oils.

I'm glad the 10w30 is working. When M1 10w40 4T goes 5000 miles without losing shift quality and holding grade, it's hard to get eyes for other oil.

 

[webfors]

T4 15w40, HiFlo 137, 2022 DR650, with 40k kms on bike.

 

[B6_Dolphin]

'22 Ducati Multistrada V4 PP

ODO: 9,298 miles
OCI: 1,728 miles

Out: Motul 7100 15W50 & OEM filter
In: Motorex 4T 15W50 & OEM filter