Possible large oil fields in Illinois

[tig1]

Two sides to every coin, but Illinois needs cash badly as the politicians have wrecked this states economy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/...-considered-by/

 

[Doog]

Won't happen...the greenies will freak out and decide it is better to be bankrupt.

 

[4D-56]

time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


NOTHING that will work as well in many apps. PERIOD.

So as long and you like certain modes of transportation people need to THINK about finding ways to get oil.

Bill

 

[bama7x57]

Originally Posted By: Doog
Won't happen...the greenies will freak out and decide it is better to be bankrupt.


yep

 

[bama7x57]

Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!

 

[bama7x57]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


NOTHING that will work as well in many apps. PERIOD.

So as long and you like certain modes of transportation people need to THINK about finding ways to get oil.

Bill


No doubt!!

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


Solar is still expensive (although solar panel cost are coming down) and Windfarm transmissions are failing within 2.5 years that were supposed to last 20 years.

Neither is what one can consider as high density energy.

The only other form of high density power (which is what we have to consider) is nuclear. I am a proponent of more research in PBR and breeder reactors in order to use nuclear sources and waste to produce power.

But in the meantime, we need to use the high-density energy resources found in rich hydrocarbon resources such as gas and oil we have in this country.

Greenies complain about solar farms, greenies complain about windfarms dotting the countryside, they complain about fracting, complain about dams endangering some unknown fish, but seem to offer no real-world, viable substitute that can provide energy today. They can't have it both ways.

 

[expat]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


NOTHING that will work as well in many apps. PERIOD.

So as long and you like certain modes of transportation people need to THINK about finding ways to get oil.

Bill


Years back, the same was said in the U.K. about Coal.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


NOTHING that will work as well in many apps. PERIOD.

So as long and you like certain modes of transportation people need to THINK about finding ways to get oil.

Bill


Years back, the same was said in the U.K. about Coal.


Tell me how you are going to get an Airplane (let's say a 747) into the air without oil...

Put a nuke in it? Solar panels? Oh I know! Put a windmill on it!!!

Nothing BEATS oil and its 6-7 lbs per gallon and how much BTU it puts off.

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


You can get banished from the BITOG kingdom with posts like that! What DOES the "O" in BITOG stand for, by the way?

Perhaps you would like to discuss "alternative" forms of energy that can even come close to petroleum for energy density and convenience?

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: tig1
Two sides to every coin, but Illinois needs cash badly as the politicians have wrecked this states economy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/...-considered-by/


As long as the politicians can put high enough taxes on the oil so that the gummint gets most of the money, and the private sector gets almost nothing, they'll be OK with it.

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Drill baby drill! I love it! Smells great coming straight from the ground.

 

[Mr Nice]

Yep. Drill baby drill !!!!

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


NOTHING that will work as well in many apps. PERIOD.

So as long and you like certain modes of transportation people need to THINK about finding ways to get oil.

Bill


Years back, the same was said in the U.K. about Coal.


Tell me how you are going to get an Airplane (let's say a 747) into the air without oil...

Put a nuke in it? Solar panels? Oh I know! Put a windmill on it!!!

Nothing BEATS oil and its 6-7 lbs per gallon and how much BTU it puts off.

Airplanes are one example where oil derived fuel makes sense.
But for energy for heating/cooling buildings, there are many options to reduce the demand, but oil and gas are "inexpensive" so we don't need to be efficient...

 

[sasilverbullet]

Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
time to wake up and stop being so dependent on oil!


Why?

 

[Tempest]

Quote:
but oil and gas are "inexpensive" so we don't need to be efficient...

Do you have any idea where prices come from?

 

[shDK]

Simply because oil is often comming from regions of the world where it is controlled by relegius fanatics. And or sometimes gained by taking controle through war. Theese wars give problems for whole regions when regugees start comming across the boaders.

The western worlds need for oil makes os close our eyes for dictators abusing there population simple becouse they keep our cars running. All that while we bring democracy to countrys who where never a thread. Like iraq

another reason is that as china and indias need for oil gets bigger there won't be anough oil in the world.

 

[Tempest]

Quote:
The western worlds need for oil makes os close our eyes for dictators abusing there population simple becouse they keep our cars running.

And you really think that will change when the "next" energy source comes along? Whatever dictators have the resources to make or contain that "next" energy source will be in the same position.

Think beyond stage one.

 

[shDK]

Well as long wind sun waterpower hot water from the underground and seawater will be much easyer to get. Yes then i am pretty certain it will make a difference. Maybe you should think beyond step 2.

I am no greentech fanstic. But i will rather get my electricety from wind mills we make our self with the bennefits og jobs being made. Then from oil i bought from a dictator who at the same time support teorismen and so on and so on.