Poor vehicle choice decisions....

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Back in 1988, our family needed a new vehicle. Our 1978 Chevrolet Malibu wagon was wearing out, as can be expected on a daily-driven vehicle of that era.

My father had had a lot of problems with this Malibu wagon from the start. First few years had seen problems with the paint and transmission; and near the end, the engine ended up so carboned-up that it hardly ran at all.

My father was extremely bitter and angry that he had had all these problems with his GM, and felt that it was a general condition with domestic car manufacturers - they were staffed by lazy, ignorant, overpaid 'union joes' who didn't give a carp about doing a good job, and built garbage.

So he was determined he was buying an asian import, as they were just better-made and more reliable. My step-mom had gotten good, reliable service out of her 1977 Honda Civic, and he liked that car, so he was going with something like that.

So, in December of 1988, he drove home a brand-new 1989 Toyota Tercel 3-door hatchback. Money was tight, so it was a complete stripper - white, vinyl seats, no radio, and a 4-speed transmission(!). The ONLY option on it was a rear wiper(!).

The problem? We were a family of 6 at the time, and this was to be the family vehicle! Right away I pointed out this wasn't really going to work, but both my parents countered with the fact that we rarely all went out as a family, and for times we did, we would just make do. On a lot of trips, this involved my younger sisters sitting on our laps. After a while, I got fed up and went out with them less.

I knew that money was tight, and we couldn't get a big vehicle, but I thought that for about the same money, a Chevrolet Cavalier wagon made more sense. But that just got my dad off on a rant about how I didn't understand what garbage ALL domestic cars were, and it was thinking like that that saddled people with junk cars. He was on a crusade, one he never got over.

I have to admit, that Tercel was very reliable - it even survived being driven around all day after the drain plug fell out from a 'Toyota oil change' at the dealership. It ended up doing about 80k miles, until my step-mom wrecked it soon after my father passed away. She replaced it with a Toyota Previa van - the type of vehicle we should have bought years earlier. She never saw the irony.....

Anyone else have a story about a vehilce purchase/choice that didn't really 'fit'?
 
My wife and I have 4 kids, 3 boys and a girl. Using the same logic as your parents ( we hardly ever went someplace all together), we bought a new 1999 4 door Civic LX.

And it pretty much worked as planned, as the odd times we all went somewhere, we just piled in and went. The daughter still drives that car, it now has 120k plus on it and runs great.
 
When I graduated college, my parents wanted to buy me a used car. They told me they didn't care what it was, as long as it fell within the price range.

Then, at the last minute, my mother decided she did care after all: she "found out" (I had been mentioning it at every opportunity for over a year) that the ones I had my eye on were manual, and vetoed them all categorically. All the points about fuel economy, reliability, and cost of ownership went in one ear and out the other. She literally would rather have seen me in an automatic '86 Porsche 944 than a manual '97 Civic.

Then, presumably just to shut me up, she offered to split maintenance 50/50 with me if I just did what she wanted. At that point, I didn't really care what I got. I needed a car for the job I wanted to take, and couldn't afford one at the time. I picked the most boatish not-painfully-slow and vaguely reliable car I could find in reasonable shape for the money.

That's how I got my '95 Maxima.

The really strange part is that a few months later, I somehow managed to spin it out fantastically and land it transmission-first on a big rock, smashing the transmission's casing along with the front left strut in the process. The rest of the car was fine...
 
My inlaws never went anywhere together as a family, they had a tradesman's van with upended 5 gal buckets as extra seats when they went camping one time.
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When us kids got bigger my Dad traded a midsize Ford fairmont for a compact escort. He liked the stick shift, special ordered the fairmont that way, and couldn't get a taurus with one. So he showed the dealer and went small.
 
It may have been a incompatiable choice but it was NOT a poor choice as your family could tell from the Tercel's excellent realibility..If only Toyota was so good today as it was back then.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Back in 1988, our family needed a new vehicle. Our 1978 Chevrolet Malibu wagon was wearing out, as can be expected on a daily-driven vehicle of that era.

My father had had a lot of problems with this Malibu wagon from the start. First few years had seen problems with the paint and transmission; and near the end, the engine ended up so carboned-up that it hardly ran at all.

My father was extremely bitter and angry that he had had all these problems with his GM, and felt that it was a general condition with domestic car manufacturers - they were staffed by lazy, ignorant, overpaid 'union joes' who didn't give a carp about doing a good job, and built garbage.

So he was determined he was buying an asian import, as they were just better-made and more reliable. My step-mom had gotten good, reliable service out of her 1977 Honda Civic, and he liked that car, so he was going with something like that.

So, in December of 1988, he drove home a brand-new 1989 Toyota Tercel 3-door hatchback. Money was tight, so it was a complete stripper - white, vinyl seats, no radio, and a 4-speed transmission(!). The ONLY option on it was a rear wiper(!).

The problem? We were a family of 6 at the time, and this was to be the family vehicle! Right away I pointed out this wasn't really going to work, but both my parents countered with the fact that we rarely all went out as a family, and for times we did, we would just make do. On a lot of trips, this involved my younger sisters sitting on our laps. After a while, I got fed up and went out with them less.

I knew that money was tight, and we couldn't get a big vehicle, but I thought that for about the same money, a Chevrolet Cavalier wagon made more sense. But that just got my dad off on a rant about how I didn't understand what garbage ALL domestic cars were, and it was thinking like that that saddled people with junk cars. He was on a crusade, one he never got over.

I have to admit, that Tercel was very reliable - it even survived being driven around all day after the drain plug fell out from a 'Toyota oil change' at the dealership. It ended up doing about 80k miles, until my step-mom wrecked it soon after my father passed away. She replaced it with a Toyota Previa van - the type of vehicle we should have bought years earlier. She never saw the irony.....

Anyone else have a story about a vehilce purchase/choice that didn't really 'fit'?



How did the suspension hold up carrying 6 people around?
 
Reminds me why I have a 2 door Cobalt as the "other" family car.


The Irony in that is that the Balt replaced a Cavalier Wagon.



Though when the wife's car was getting a new fuel pump early last year, three people in a 2dr car was not too bad...
 
My kids (3) always complained that my Suburbans were too big and bulky for them to drive. So, I got a Toyota 4Runner...as soon as I pulled it in the driveway they said.."How are we all going to drive to Florida in THAT?"

I should have bought the Mustang GT that I wanted and told them to fly to Florida.
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Originally Posted By: PT1
My kids (3) always complained that my Suburbans were too big and bulky for them to drive. So, I got a Toyota 4Runner...as soon as I pulled it in the driveway they said.."How are we all going to drive to Florida in THAT?"

I should have bought the Mustang GT that I wanted and told them to fly to Florida.
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
So, in December of 1988, he drove home a brand-new 1989 Toyota Tercel 3-door hatchback. Money was tight, so it was a complete stripper - white, vinyl seats, no radio, and a 4-speed transmission(!). The ONLY option on it was a rear wiper(!).


Reminds me of the 1983 Civic my parents bought when my brother and I were in High School; it was the 5-speed "1300FE" model which stood for "Fuel Efficient", in an era when most Civics were 4-speeds and/or 1.5L engines. It was a true stripper with no AC, no carpet, no rear defrost, AM radio only, etc. Sure it got good mileage but with the way my parents drove (the speed limit was 55, so they probably kept it at about 53 just to be safe) that is to be expected.

Knowing my mother, though, this car probably represented her ideal vehicle! Why have an optional armrest or rear defrost when it'll do the job without? Never mind that a 3-hour trek on the Interstate becomes a tedious chore with no armrests and a fogged-up rear window.

Despite all of Honda's good reputation, this thing was really a pile. Cold starts were always an adventure in the winter, and anything below zero just wasn't happening. More than once we had to have it towed when an overnight in the garage with space heaters or a charcoal grille couldn't keep it warm enough. I wasn't around for most of those years so I don't remember what all went on the get it fixed. Eventually it turned into a terrible oil-burner which even an expensive overhaul at the dealer couldn't fix.

So I'd say, this wasn't the best car buying decision.
 
Its funny how experiences like that color future decisions. My dad tried two small vehicles in succession in the late 70s/early 80s. First was a 78 Plymouth Horizon- or as I like to call it the "Horrorizon." Terrible car, and 90% of the problems involved the VW-sourced engine. But he liked the gas mileage, so he replaced it with a Mazda B-2000. WORSE pile O junk- couldn't keep the front suspension together, rusted like crazy (even in saltless Texas). All the while there was the 73 Plymouth Satellite he bought new for my mom, and then handed over to me in 1980- still going strong with about 200k miles (at the time). So after futzing about with the B2000 for a while, he threw his hands up and said "NEVER AGAIN" both to compact cars and to imports. He replaced the B2000 with an ex-highway patrol 1983 Gran Fury that had over 120k miles on it when he bought it (for about $1000), and proceeded to drive the living snot out of it. Ran it up to well over 200k with little trouble and it only got about 6 mpg less than the Mazda, so he (and I by association) have been dead-set against Asian cars ever since. After the Gran Fury, he got a 92 Dakota and ran *it* up to 230k miles without ever changing the ATF. Still has it, in fact, though its the farm beater truck now.

Would we have had rotten luck if we'd bought Accords and Camrys through the 80s and 90s? Probably not, but then we never had trouble with our American cars either. The whole point is that the late 70s were *horrible* for any type of vehicle. Precious few good vehicles of any brand were made then, but a lot of lasting opinions were formed by people that got burned.
 
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When my wife was my girlfriend (and a teenager) her dad let her drive a nicely worn [censored] green Ford Pinto with the auto trans and the 4 banger. Not only did the color make you seasick, but I swear the car was more stable going backwards than forwards and it seemed to have autolock brakes. Hit the brakes when the road was slippery and you were going backwards down the highway just like that. That was about the most unsafe vehicle to give a new teenage driver in the history of the world. That was the one some of you may remember that exploded in rear-end collisions too.
 
My only bad choice was a 1988 Grand Am with a Quad 4 engine. While I could live with the puke brown interior color, it had a few issues the biggest being a blown head gasket. In the end it was a real ratty car - haven't looked at GM products after that.
 
Talk about a poor choice? I first got married in jan. 1988. My new wife had a 1983 (?) Honda Civic. I promptly sold it to her kid sister and bought a 1976 Pinto wagon from her parents. I got the worst end of that deal! Fortunately, i can laugh about it now. The pinto was a royal money pit. Imagine that.
 
I am still debating if it was a bad choice to have bought that 1964 TR-4 in 1966. Yes, the blown head gasket within weeks of the purchase, all the generators, the burned valves, the rust, the terrible ride, the oil leak, and other things time has mercifully dimmed. But I had a lot of fun with that car.
 
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