Poor Handling - Shocks?

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Vehicle in question is the old trusty and rusty S10. As of late I've noticed handling has been quite poor. By that I mean way more body roll, especially out of corners and poor stability in winds or adverse weather. I know it is a truck, but I don't recall it ever being this bad. Emergency braking causes serious nose dive which from what I remember is a sign of bad shocks as well. No other noticeable suspension issues; the rear leaf shackles are pretty crusty, but still solid at this time. No swaybar equipped on this base model. Last record I have for shock replacement is around 57K. You folks think it's time for some replacements?
 
You can remove the shocks and test them by hand. They should compress slowly and extend even slower.
Could the vehicle be so rusty that the body/frame is flexing?
 
sounds like you should've replaced them some time ago.

Your decision rests on if you plan to just get rid of the vehicle in near future
or spend money on it and get some use out of it.
 
It is probably time for new shocks. Bilstein makes good ones
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Originally Posted By: raytseng
sounds like you should've replaced them some time ago.

Your decision rests on if you plan to just get rid of the vehicle in near future
or spend money on it and get some use out of it.

I agree.
 
Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
You can remove the shocks and test them by hand. They should compress slowly and extend even slower.
Could the vehicle be so rusty that the body/frame is flexing?


Just surface rust on the frame, but the shocks look a little crispy (but for a MD and PA vehicle it's super clean). I'm sure if I removed them to test them out they'd be in a million pieces.

I'm shooting to get another couple good years out of it then it gets "farm" duty. A set of 4 ACDelco shocks shipped to my door off RA is $75, that's nothing.
 
KYBs are $50 a pop on Rockauto.
Order them today, get them by next Thursday.
I'll be over Saturday morning if you provide the beer.
We'll be done by noon!
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Originally Posted By: Imp4
KYBs are $50 a pop on Rockauto.
Order them today, get them by next Thursday.
I'll be over Saturday morning if you provide the beer.
We'll be done by noon!
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Where in Ohio are you?
 
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Where in Ohio are you?

Let's not get too specific here...but we'll say northerly and easterly.
 
My old 97 Legacy GT handled like a brand new car after swapping out the OE ~175k shocks for new KYB-GR2 all around. It was my first time doing this and I was pretty blown away. I bought it as a temp winter beater but ended up keeping it a few years. I would have kept it, but my sister wrecked her car several years ago and needed one. It was missing a new piece off of the car every time I came to visit for the holidays.....
 
If its in good condition then get some KYB Gas-A-Just shocks.

And check the sway bar end links, tires, and tire pressure as well.
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
Having to ask means you should get professional advice.


Sort of. Professionals are going to replace everything and IMHO not worth the cost on something this old.

I had bad handling that turned out to be bad tie rod by a trusty mechanic not the entire suspension and bushings proposed by dealer and tire chain.
 
Your shocks are probably a major cause of the problem, but keep in mind that other things may contribute.
1. Failed sway bar links and bushings. This is usually the first thing to fail on any car.
2. Idler arm. They tend not to last long on a Chevy S10 or Blazer.
3. Control arm bushings. Get a prybar and pry against the control arm bushings. They should hardly move at all. This is a much bigger problem on trucks that are about 20 years old.
 
Originally Posted By: Imp4
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Where in Ohio are you?

Let's not get too specific here...but we'll say northerly and easterly.

Must be Colonel Flagg under cover again on a secret assignment.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Your shocks are probably a major cause of the problem, but keep in mind that other things may contribute.
1. Failed sway bar links and bushings. This is usually the first thing to fail on any car.
2. Idler arm. They tend not to last long on a Chevy S10 or Blazer.
3. Control arm bushings. Get a prybar and pry against the control arm bushings. They should hardly move at all. This is a much bigger problem on trucks that are about 20 years old.


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These things seem to just seem to handle poorly, but I am not sure how my Blazer would compared to your S10 with different drivetrains. Also, my idea of poor may be different than yours.

Used to make fun of my brother when he had his because it seemed to bounce so much even after the new shocks and front end components. Bought mine and replaced with the same brand/ model of shock and I have the same issue, but I still have my original front end components. I blame the old torsion bars and being used to the harsher ride of my Jeep. For whatever reason, his front sway bar end links as well as mine had been replaced with what appears to be the Moog part that never did fit quite right. I can't remember if I bought AC Delco Proff. or Profordge, but we shall see how they fit.

My idler arm and control arm bushings are shot and I know it. I'll hopefully be doing the whole front end sometime this week so we shall see. Control arms with ball joints, tie rod ends, idler arm. etc. AC Delco control arms and Proforge (per Trav's recommendation) everything else. New camber bolts and lower bolts too. I need to do my rear sway bar end links sometime too.

I will say if I had it to do over again, I would have tried the OE shocks or perhaps Bilstein, which would have probably cost more than the truck itself. I basically did that with tires anyways! Lol.
 
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Luckily for me the front end was all rebuilt about a year before I bought the truck. Everything checked out other than the rusty shocks. One of them is almost completely rotted. Bought a set of cheap AC Delco's. I could have gone with a better brand, but who knows how long it will be roadworthy. Noticed alot more rust than I thought.
 
Since it seems everybody likes a follow-up and nobody hardly does it, I will!

Replaced all 4 shocks today and it actually wasn't bad. To my amazement on the front shocks the top nut came off easy, after the initial loosen I could remove the nut with my hand. I was fully prepared to cut them off. The rear shocks were not as easy; the inner bushing was rusted on the bottom bolt/stud. Luckily for me it was a split type and some hammering did the trick. I anti-seized the heck out of everything as they're cheap shocks and if the truck last long enough I'll have to do it again. Don't want to screw myself!

Fronts new and old. Not bad shape actually.

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Rears. This is where the problem was as you can see...

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Ride quality is so much better, almost like a new truck! Not bad for $80. I will be ordering a new set of sway-bar links as upon further investigation (and actually figuring out I had a front sway bad, lol.) they're a little crispy.
 
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