I agree with you. Huge waste of money.
The reason they are so ineffective is that portable units are cooling air that’s already been cooled. If they have an intake from outside, they are better. But i researched and few units have intake and exhaust from and to the outside, which is how a window unit workswhen we have an outage in texas, I use a big AC unit on wheels, and I plumb the exhaust into the dryer vent of the house. That barely gets the job done in one or two rooms max. His plan will not work in any way shape or form.
I may suggest that he try the dryer-vent thing - much less invasive than cutting a new hole.when we have an outage in texas, I use a big AC unit on wheels, and I plumb the exhaust into the dryer vent of the house. That barely gets the job done in one or two rooms max. His plan will not work in any way shape or form.
This makes me realize I don't actually understand how window AC units work.The reason they are so ineffective is that portable units are cooling air that’s already been cooled. If they have an intake from outside, they are better. But i researched and few units have intake and exhaust from and to the outside, which is how a window unit works
This makes me realize I don't actually understand how window AC units work.
Do they draw in hot air from inside, cool it, run a fan to blow air across the evaporator to inside, and then exhaust the original air outside?
No, they pull in air from the outside & blow it over the condenser, the interior air just gets recirculated & cooled/dried more. My old GE & new Haier have an interesting feature-the cool condensate (water) gets thrown up on the condenser by the condenser fan blade, increasing efficiency. As long as you don't mind the water splashing noises all the time!This makes me realize I don't actually understand how window AC units work.
Do they draw in hot air from inside, cool it, run a fan to blow air across the evaporator to inside, and then exhaust the original air outside?
You're kind of stating that both occur: pull air in from the outside AND recirculate the interior air?? Modern window units do not pull air from the outside, except as noted that a few might have a lever to open up to outside air.No, they pull in air from the outside & blow it over the condenser, the interior air just gets recirculated & cooled/dried more. My old GE & new Haier have an interesting feature-the cool condensate (water) gets thrown up on the condenser by the condenser fan blade, increasing efficiency. As long as you don't mind the water splashing noises all the time!
Those 70's window a/c units were like refrigerators. Must have used a ton of electricity but as a kid in the 70's it was like living in a refrigerator.The air from the evaporator and condenser sides of a window AC is kept separate.
Some have a flap that can be opened to outside air to be sucked inside. The last window AC I saw that had that feature was probably from the 70s, though. I've never noticed if modern window AC units even still have the option of outside air.
Those 70's window a/c units were like refrigerators. Must have used a ton of electricity but as a kid in the 70's it was like living in a refrigerator.
That old 70’s era 220VAC 25,000btu window AC my father had definitely met the bill and honestly our electric bill was far lower than the neighbors with an “efficient “ whole house unit.
They would run the furnace fan to circulate the cooled air.I truly haven’t a clue on what size blower is needed (nor how to calculate) to move 1200 cfm through ductwork but I do know the blower in our furnace is huge.
My experience with window units is they often don’t really get a space comfortable but are better than a fan alone
They do plan to run the furnace fan to circulate the air.Many older furnaces had a fan only option. Check if he has that. If so it’s likely the furnace uses basement air to circulate throughout the house. That was common back then. The cooler basement air would help bring the temperature down. If this is the case then there would be no need to duct anything to the furnace. Just mount the unit and run it and turn on the furnace fan.
With all that said, it’s still a hokey way of doing things.
I am thoroughly confused (which is not uncommon).You're kind of stating that both occur: pull air in from the outside AND recirculate the interior air?? Modern window units do not pull air from the outside, except as noted that a few might have a lever to open up to outside air.
EDIT: o.k., maybe your wording is just a bit confusing. They use outside air on the condenser, but it is not "pulled in" to the inside room.
Does A Window Air Conditioner Pull Air From Outside? - HVAC BOSS
The first time you switch on that air conditioner in the summer, it really does seem like magic. Especially if you've had to go without it for any length ofhvac-boss.com
Left side: I have little to no restrictions and able to move huge volumes of air over the coils with a fan no larger than the heart of an artichoke
Bad Idea! You are right. Get a free estimate to repair the existing unit or get a new window unit. Depending on local electricity costs, one may save money to buy a 15/16 seer. Your friend needs to shop various electricity sellers for lower KW pricing. .02The AC has quit working at my friend's daughter's home.
I don't know whether they were running central AC or a window unit.
My friend has picked up a large used window unit at no cost.
I helped him load it into his van, and asked whether there was a window large enough to accommodate it.
He replied that he doesn't need one - he plans to install it in the basement, with the cold air output plumbed into the existing ductwork, and the hot exhaust air ducted outside.
I doubt this will work properly.
Concerns:
1. The unit's blower fan will not be powerful enough to exhaust the hot air - an inline booster fan will be required.
2. The cost of the sheet-metal work would be prohibitive.
3. The footprint of this installation would be large.
4. Condensation would have to be gathered in a pan and emptied regularly. The exhaust ducting would have to make allowance for this.
5. This unit will be very expensive to run (1170 W/10.9 A on 120 VAC, SEER 10.8, 12,600 BTU/hr) plus the cost of running a booster fan and the furnace fan.
My preferences would be:
A. If the existing broken system is central, repair or replace it.
B. If the existing system is a window AC, replace it with a modern SEER 18 (or better) unit.
If required, run a dehumidifier as well.
C. If this old free unit must be used, cut a hole in the wall (properly framed with a header, etc.) and install the AC unit as it was designed to be installed.
Thoughts? Thanks.
They have central AC which has quit, and they can't afford to repair it. They are running a small window AC unit, which is not adequate.Bad Idea! You are right. Get a free estimate to repair the existing unit or get a new window unit. Depending on local electricity costs, one may save money to buy a 15/16 seer. Your friend needs to shop various electricity sellers for lower KW pricing. .02