1. Why is time an issue? Why would you give it as an option if it’s not really an option due to time constraints? Also, this is just my opinion, but no oil change is really THAT time sensitive unless you don’t routinely have access to the vehicle or it’s out under very specific abuse that might rapidly degrade the oil, e.g., racing.
The time I'm describing is shopping for the oil. Where did I say it's not an option? I said that I'd rather not invest the time and $$ for a quart of oil. That's not saying it's not an option. What it is is a least desirable option.
You asked, "Why is time an issue?" Because there are other things I'd prefer to do with that time, and even if there weren't, I've just returned from driving almost 5,000 miles. I'd rather not jump into my pedestrian, s***box, boring, mundane, and bland alternative to public transportation and run errands through local traffic while driving on our uncomfortable, poorly-maintained local streets and highways. I've not been to a store to purchase oil in years, and I'd rather not start now if at all possible, especially for just a quart of oil.
2. You got a better deal on HPL than M1? “Very good“ needs context.
Everyone attending who ordered oil got a deal, plus I got a little extra because I traveled the greatest distance. It cost me a lot for that deal, but I had planned to be on a road trip anyway.
3. Quality oil? M1 is not? Not knocking HPL; simply questioning the way you posted your question and your options. Why would a Camry need better than a high-quality standard oil? What is your use case for justification.
Sure, M1 EP is a high quality oil. However, being on BITOG, and having attended the HPL meeting, I felt I could do even better for what was, to me and others, a comparable price. I feel no need to justify my oil choice. I don't ask others to justify their oil choices. However, I will give you this: the Camry is generally used for very short trips, hardly ever more than three to six miles. I've been changing oil 2X per year. Dave feels that I could extend that very comfortably to once a year. and he gave me an example of why he feels that way.
BASED on the BITOG philosophy of keeping oil and oil-change prices down, the more expensive HPL works out to be less than M1 EP.
What frosts my pumpkin are the people (perhaps including you?) who feel that just because it's a Camry, it is overkill to use a premium oil.
If your Camry is being treated so well, why the need for a specialty, boutique cleaner?
Bought the car used. It wasn't treated well, I got the cleaner as a gift, I like what I read about the product, I trust Dave, I trust and respect some of the people here who are knowledgeable about such things and who have used HPL products.
4. You’re asking us if you can mix oils when a quality maker, HPL, has an account on this forum. Ask them about mixing first. Also, when you’ve been on this forum for so long, it’s odd that you didn’t do your own research before posting. I’m not attacking you with this; I’m honestly flummoxed.
I knew Dave would jump in, and I knew that people I know and trust would respond, and they did. My primary question was if it would be OK to use HPL oil and HPL cleaner together. People responded with opinions and facts. I suppose asking questions here might be considered a type of research. And I personally know a couple of folks here who had the same question.
Do you ask questions here to learn and expand your knowledge and enhance your experiences?
What better place to learn about oil than on a forum devoted to oil?
5. Why the need to manually quote me, then later use the forum’s quote feature for “emphasis”? I asked a question and you answered as someone who doesn’t have an answer - burn on me, I guess…
Now you're criticizing my writing style
I might ask why you're so abrasive and critical, but I won't. It's been suggested that I be more polite and perhaps even circumspect.
I'd like to ask you a personal question. How old are you?
Anyway, have a good evening