Ph7317

[kschachn]

Originally Posted by BBDartCA
Black is an improvement. That orange can has hella negatives associated with.

It does? Like what?

 

[slacktide_bitog]

I just went to Walmart earlier today. A late-2019 production PH7317 has the regular orange can with the grippy top

290-something day of 2019 was the date code, so the filter was only made about a month ago

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
I just went to Walmart earlier today. A late-2019 production PH7317 has the regular orange can with the grippy top...
Now if you would please order a PH7317 from Amazon so we could see what you get, much appreciated. j/k

I would like to know where that black can PH7317 comes from. Even shows it on google search of PH7317. Weird.

 

[GumbyJarvis]

Originally Posted by Sayjac
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
I just went to Walmart earlier today. A late-2019 production PH7317 has the regular orange can with the grippy top...
Now if you would please order a PH7317 from Amazon so we could see what you get, much appreciated. j/k

I would like to know where that black can PH7317 comes from. Even shows it on google search of PH7317. Weird.


After looking over boats, the Mercury and a few other engines at the used dealer had these filters. Me thinks its probably the watercraft variant of a Fram Core.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Originally Posted by Bettez88
Update: received the standard orange sure grip extra guard through amazon so I have no idea why they show the black version....oh well, I'll run the filter on my wife's Honda next oil change


What is the date code on yours?

 

[MetalSlug]

Fram orange can and Quaker state hm oil are my to go cheap oil and filter that do fine on 5k or 6 month oil change . Accept on high performing cars

 

[Bettez88]

A9221 1 So August 9 of 2019 first shift

 

[Bettez88]

Found this out from fram

 

[Sayjac]

^^^^Good info. So it would appear Amazon didn't pull the pic out of thin air, and it is not a Fram core as speculated several times in this thread. I will say I can't discern the texture in the Amazon pic but could be an early rendering. Or pic just doesn't have enough definition. Was difficult for me to imagine a Fram labeled PH7317 with no other identifying mark, anything other an EG filter.

Looks like Trico is abandoning the orange can color.

 

[Brons2]

RIP Orange Can of Death

Hello Black Can of Death.

(disclaimer: just joking, I use and like Fram products).

 

[Bettez88]

Who knows what the truth is

 

[tundraotto]

Black FRAM motorcycle filter at Walmart....

https://www.walmart.com/ip/FRAM-Extra-Guard-Oil-Filter-PH6017A/16879145?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=141&adid=22222222227024149728&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40840066832&wl4=aud-430887228898la-78652957352&wl5=9026146&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=16879145&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq-uC4hsyGdd7auIbr4sSFk4XQGco6EvCdmMoyN4nPHkawzL8a4kM5BoC4CYQAvD_BwE

 

[Sayjac]

Wow. Apparently the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Glad I added qualifiers to my last post. But correct, who knows what the truth is. Perhaps the first em was correct and released info that's not supposed to be out yet.

At this point, take your pick.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by tundraotto
Black FRAM motorcycle filter at Walmart....

https://www.walmart.com/ip/FRAM-Extra-Guard-Oil-Filter-PH6017A/16879145?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=141&adid=22222222227024149728&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40840066832&wl4=aud-430887228898la-78652957352&wl5=9026146&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=16879145&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq-uC4hsyGdd7auIbr4sSFk4XQGco6EvCdmMoyN4nPHkawzL8a4kM5BoC4CYQAvD_BwE


Fram doesn't spec the their 7317 filter for any motorcycle that I know of.

 

[quint]

I used to use the orange can 7317 filters but once I tried the black ones I never went back.

 

[Job]

Fram Europe makes a black filter with different metal crimp unpainted. So the human email answers are wrong, as is so often the case in this world. See they even have a pic of a black one. French.

https://www.fram-europe.com/en/catalogue/online-catalogue.html

 

[ZeeOSix]

Looks like the black Frams are Euro speced filters. Go in and look at all these spin-ons ... most are black cans. Maybe these have the "Chevron" media design.

https://www.sogefifilterdivision.co...AM&lang=GB&famille=L&forme=V

 

[jim302]

Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Fram Europe makes a black filter with different metal crimp unpainted. So the human email answers are wrong, as is so often the case in this world. See they even have a pic of a black one. French.

https://www.fram-europe.com/en/catalogue/online-catalogue.html






Good catch. It appears that Fram Europe is under different ownership than Fram in the US. It is not unusual to see familiar brands under different corporate control in different parts of the world. Therefore it is not surprising that Fram US customer service would not be aware of the European Fram products.

It isn't super unusual for Amazon photos to be wrong. Since Amazon operates globally, maybe somehow a picture from their UK site made it over to the US site.

 

[tundraotto]

The amazon photo shows German on the text - so quite possibly European (or even Chinese 'Renken' etc. filters faked) Fram filter.

 

[Bettez88]

Europe seems to get better quality filters, even fram! They have chevron pleating and an overall better bike quality