PG 5 micron filter

[dnewton3]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
I agree with others it's probably not a 99% at 5 microns filter.

What's the asterix say after the statement "at 5 microns" on the box?

Probably something like ...
* in our dreams

I lay odds that it's a marketing/printing layout mistake. That's a moderate sized filter; nothing large. There's no way in Hades that thing is full flow at 10gpm, 99% at 5um and yet has capacity to last a long time. OTOH, Harley folks do tend to over-spend on their maintenance. Maybe the * = "use only for 500 mile OCIs" ?

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ dnewton3 ...

* in our dreams
* use only for 500 mile OCIs

 

[kschachn]

I've looked all over for a better description of Harley's "5 micron" filter but it is not conclusive. What does that mean exactly?

If it means "filters down to 5 microns" then that is meaningless without a corresponding efficiency. Like I've pointed out before, my window screen filters 5 micron particles too but I'd never want that as my oil filter.

 

[Pinoak]

Originally Posted by beanoil
Seriously doubt that filter, as a primary full flow, in an HD application calling for 20w50, has a 5 micron rating.

What if it we're filtering bean oil, beanoil ...€

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Originally Posted by kschachn
I've looked all over for a better description of Harley's "5 micron" filter but it is not conclusive. What does that mean exactly?

If it means "filters down to 5 microns" then that is meaningless without a corresponding efficiency. Like I've pointed out before, my window screen filters 5 micron particles too but I'd never want that as my oil filter.



LOL conclusive would give you too much data. All filters should have to be rated at about 10 micron and that same result listed clearly on the box!

 

[DuckRyder]

Harley Super Premium 5 filters are 5 Micron Nominal per the box. Though there was at least on dealer website claiming 5 micron at 98 or 99% which I believe said material is no longer on.

I can buy genuine SP5 filters for $8-11.00 around here.

This is a premium guard filter not a genuine filter, we discussed them a while back, it is a relatively new entry to the market and I don't like the way it is packaged and labeled to mimic a genuine part.

I've posted a number of genuine ones here.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Pinoak - what's the asterix (*) statement say on the box?

 

[DuckRyder]

https://www.pgfilters.com/product-page/PG63798/2014-Harley-Davidson-FLSTN-Softail-Deluxe/Oil-Filter/

Quote
96% Multi-Pass efficiency and removal of particles as small as 20 microns

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Originally Posted by DuckRyder
https://www.pgfilters.com/product-page/PG63798/2014-Harley-Davidson-FLSTN-Softail-Deluxe/Oil-Filter/

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96% Multi-Pass efficiency and removal of particles as small as 20 microns




So what we have here is another load of Bovine Scat seriously area you just get full up to here with these lies?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by DuckRyder
https://www.pgfilters.com/product-page/PG63798/2014-Harley-Davidson-FLSTN-Softail-Deluxe/Oil-Filter/

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96% Multi-Pass efficiency and removal of particles as small as 20 microns




So what we have here is another load of Bovine Scat seriously area you just get full up to here with these lies?


Maybe it's counterfeit ... ??

 

[Pinoak]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Pinoak - what's the asterix (*) statement say on the box?

I'll have to wait till I go back home to look. Am out of town right now

 

[Pinoak]

Nowhere on the box does it address the asterix.
heres the other 2 sides of the box

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ No surprise the asterix is not addressed. Thanks for checking.

 

[bullwinkle]

It doesn't filter to 5 microns, the NAME is just 5Microns! At least it's nice & shiny!

 

[Pinoak]

Originally Posted by bullwinkle
It doesn't filter to 5 microns, the NAME is just 5Microns! At least it's nice & shiny!

I'm certain it does filter to 5 micron. Maybe not at 99% I'm not sure but to some degree I'm sure it does.
It looks and feels well made. I won't know exactly how it looks inside for a really long time though.

 

[DuckRyder]

I am surprised the MoCo's legal department isn't all over these folks...

 

[Pinoak]

Originally Posted by bbhero
I think this may well be a Premium Guard oil filter... Plastic cover in the end which I have only seen with Premium Guard filters lately.... And red silicone gasket seal which again I have only seen on Premium Guard made filters lately...

But it could be made by someone else... Be interesting to see who manufactured this filter.

It is indeed a premium guard. The media was vended out to be made by some American manufacturer (champion labs?) and it was assembled in China.
Might be an identical media to the OEM Harley filter. I notice this premium guard has a dome end bypass valve though and the HD super 5 is a threaded end.
If I intended to use this for what it's meant for I would probably just get the authentic HD filter. I think this is fine though as PG has shown to hold up.

 

[Job]

Maybe the HD oil pump flow rate supports such a filter?

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted by Pinoak
I'm certain it does filter to 5 micron. Maybe not at 99% I'm not sure but to some degree I'm sure it does.
It looks and feels well made. I won't know exactly how it looks inside for a really long time though.

Yes it does, and so does my window screen. Without an efficiency rating that isn't meaningful.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Maybe the HD oil pump flow rate supports such a filter?

How would the pump flow rate affect it?