On the box it says provides nominal 5 Micron filtration. My understanding there is a big difference be nominal and high percentage.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
On the box it says provides nominal 5 Micron filtration. My understanding there is a big difference be nominal and high percentage.
You're correct there is a big difference, but that box I posted is a genuine filter and you see how easy they are to confuse...
On the box it says provides nominal 5 Micron filtration. My understanding there is a big difference be nominal and high percentage.
You're correct there is a big difference, but that box I posted is a genuine filter and you see how easy they are to confuse...
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Pinoak
I'm certain it does filter to 5 micron. Maybe not at 99% I'm not sure but to some degree I'm sure it does.
It looks and feels well made. I won't know exactly how it looks inside for a really long time though.
Yes it does, and so does my window screen. Without an efficiency rating that isn't meaningful.
The claimed efficiencey rating is on the box , sir. you would have to take it up with the manufacturer if you question the truthfulness of the claim. In the meantime ill just use the filter and feel confident that its probably alot more efficient than your screen door lol.
Originally Posted by Pinoak
I'm certain it does filter to 5 micron. Maybe not at 99% I'm not sure but to some degree I'm sure it does.
It looks and feels well made. I won't know exactly how it looks inside for a really long time though.
Yes it does, and so does my window screen. Without an efficiency rating that isn't meaningful.
The claimed efficiencey rating is on the box , sir. you would have to take it up with the manufacturer if you question the truthfulness of the claim. In the meantime ill just use the filter and feel confident that its probably alot more efficient than your screen door lol.
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Yeah … it was engineered to do that … only the operations guys brought it back when they found it was 99%/30
Sounds like my job …
Sounds like my job …
Since it's made by a company most likeky located outside the USA, I'm thinking legal action about false specification advertising (99% at 5 microns on the box) is probably not worth pursuing. They would probably claim it was just a "printing error" if challenged.
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Since it's made by a company most likeky located outside the USA, I'm thinking legal action about false specification advertising (99% at 5 microns on the box) is probably not worth pursuing. They would probably claim it was just a "printing error" if challenged.
Headquarters is in New York
Since it's made by a company most likeky located outside the USA, I'm thinking legal action about false specification advertising (99% at 5 microns on the box) is probably not worth pursuing. They would probably claim it was just a "printing error" if challenged.
Headquarters is in New York
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Since it's made by a company most likeky located outside the USA, I'm thinking legal action about false specification advertising (99% at 5 microns on the box) is probably not worth pursuing. They would probably claim it was just a "printing error" if challenged.
Headquarters is in New York
Maybe a truth in advertising lawyer needs to send them a letter.
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Since it's made by a company most likeky located outside the USA, I'm thinking legal action about false specification advertising (99% at 5 microns on the box) is probably not worth pursuing. They would probably claim it was just a "printing error" if challenged.
Headquarters is in New York
Maybe a truth in advertising lawyer needs to send them a letter.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.linkedin.com/company/premium-guard-inc&ved=2ahUKEwj64eef2e7fAhU2HDQIHa27A_cQFjAEegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw03R5FeN4Uc0wHyJ1xEk2cR&cshid=1547518211242
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Well seeing how theyer acredited by the better business bureau, maybe you can address that with them if you really believe they're lying.
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At the bottom of this page, it says: "96% Multi Pass efficiency and removal of particles as small as 20 microns."
https://www.pgfilters.com/product-page/PG63798/2016-Harley-Davidson-FLHR-Road-King/Oil-Filter/
The efficiency statement on the box is very misleading.
But 96% @ 20u isn't bad. However, they don't reference an efficiency test spec with that claim.
https://www.pgfilters.com/product-page/PG63798/2016-Harley-Davidson-FLHR-Road-King/Oil-Filter/
The efficiency statement on the box is very misleading.
But 96% @ 20u isn't bad. However, they don't reference an efficiency test spec with that claim.
You could be correct but but I do think that is just the standard wording for the standard premium guard filters. This particular filter is certainly not standard premium guard. It's for sure a specialty made filter.
I hope the box is correct. I don't see anything leading me to believe that premium guard inc. (formerly International Distributors USA Inc.) is anything but a reputable company that is held to the same standards in advertising as any other company in the U.S.
I hope the box is correct. I don't see anything leading me to believe that premium guard inc. (formerly International Distributors USA Inc.) is anything but a reputable company that is held to the same standards in advertising as any other company in the U.S.
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Originally Posted by Pinoak
It's not just on the box either.
https://www.premiumguard.com/brands/
Scroll down a bit
I don't think the actual official Harley brand "5u filters" are even 99% @ 5 microns. They can filter "down to 5 microns", but that's not the same as 99% @ 5 microns.
Only filters that would filter down that low at 99% efficiency are bypass type filters, not spin-on full flow filters.
I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
It's not just on the box either.
https://www.premiumguard.com/brands/
Scroll down a bit
I don't think the actual official Harley brand "5u filters" are even 99% @ 5 microns. They can filter "down to 5 microns", but that's not the same as 99% @ 5 microns.
Only filters that would filter down that low at 99% efficiency are bypass type filters, not spin-on full flow filters.
I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
Well perhaps they don't care to be or feel it's necessary to be that specific.
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Well perhaps they don't care to be or feel it's necessary to be that specific.
Thing is, they have conflicting efficiency information going on. The link I posted showing the specs on that PG filter shows it doesn't filter 99% at 5 microns. The efficiency info on the box is there to cleverly fool people. Same with the official Harley filter.
But as said, 96% at 20μ is still pretty good.
Well perhaps they don't care to be or feel it's necessary to be that specific.
Thing is, they have conflicting efficiency information going on. The link I posted showing the specs on that PG filter shows it doesn't filter 99% at 5 microns. The efficiency info on the box is there to cleverly fool people. Same with the official Harley filter.
But as said, 96% at 20μ is still pretty good.
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Well perhaps they don't care to be or feel it's necessary to be that specific.
Why do you want this to work so bad?
Well perhaps they don't care to be or feel it's necessary to be that specific.
Why do you want this to work so bad?
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
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I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
The Genuine filter says "nominal 5 microns" all one need to do to verify that is look at the box I have posted.
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I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
The Genuine filter says "nominal 5 microns" all one need to do to verify that is look at the box I have posted.
Originally Posted by DuckRyder
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
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I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
The Genuine filter says "nominal 5 microns" all one need to do to verify that is look at the box I have posted.
Aaaah yes, I saw that. But Harley doesn't advertise anywhere a "xx% @ yy micron" statement on the box or on their website that I can find. And there are a few ways to interpret the "nominal" efficiency. Just more advertising smoke and mirrors.
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
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I can't find any statements on the official Harley brand "5 microns" filters that says it's actually 99% at 5 microns, only that it filters "down to" 5 microns. Big difference.
The Genuine filter says "nominal 5 microns" all one need to do to verify that is look at the box I have posted.
Aaaah yes, I saw that. But Harley doesn't advertise anywhere a "xx% @ yy micron" statement on the box or on their website that I can find. And there are a few ways to interpret the "nominal" efficiency. Just more advertising smoke and mirrors.
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