Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubrican

[MetalSlug]

I have 2 question for brake and brake fluid, for ready doing brake job this weekent.

1: about Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubrican
http://www.permatex.com/products/Automot...s_Lubricant.htm
Suggested Applications: Disc brake caliper hardware, bushings, slides, pistons, rubber sleeves and seals

my question is, can this be apply both side brake pad sim, where piston caliper press into brake pad. to reduce noise

second question is, my camaro require dot 3 brake fluid, I bought Valvoline DOT 3 and 4 Synthetic Brake Fluid, can this be use on my camaro ?

thx!

 

[stroked93]

yes and yes

 

[tom slick]

Instructions from the TDS on your link:
note #3 and #4.

DIRECTIONS FOR USE
1. Wire brush the caliper housing and anchor plate to
remove all dirt and dust.
2. Clean all parts with Permatex Brake & Parts Cleaners.
3. Apply Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts
Lubricant to all moving caliper hardware, mating
surfaces and steel backing plates of the disc brake
pads.
4. Lubricant may be applied to the BACKS of brake pads
to act as a noise suppressor eliminating caliper brake
squeal and chatter.
5. Any excess grease that squeezes out from the mating
surfaces should be removed.
Note: Keep lubricant off pads and rotors.

 

[Trav]

Just my own observation.
I used the Permatex Ceramic Extreme on a lot of cars mostly with no problem except GM calipers with rubber sleeves inside the bracket for the slide bolts.

These dried out to almost a powder solid for lack of a better description and semi froze the caliper.
On these the regular Permatex green seems to hold up okay.

http://www.permatex.com/products/Automot...iper_Lube_1.htm

 

[MetalSlug]

Thanks all, im ready for 6 pack of bud light and ready to grease hand on this sunday ^^.

 

[SLCraig]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Just my own observation.
I used the Permatex Ceramic Extreme on a lot of cars mostly with no problem except GM calipers with rubber sleeves inside the bracket for the slide bolts.

These dried out to almost a powder solid for lack of a better description and semi froze the caliper.
On these the regular Permatex green seems to hold up okay.

http://www.permatex.com/products/Automot...iper_Lube_1.htm


I had that exact problem with my Saturn and its rubber bushing slide pins, with the GREEN Permatex. The stuff sucks so much I threw out almost an entire bottle. It seized my slides in a few months.

 

[Trav]

Oh boy i did my car not to long ago i guess i better keep an eye on them.
What did you end up using and is it holding up?

 

[SLCraig]

Originally Posted By: Trav
Oh boy i did my car not to long ago i guess i better keep an eye on them.
What did you end up using and is it holding up?


I now use Sil-Glyde and I absolutely love the stuff. Brakes I did on my Saturn last fall still feel fantastic all through the winter and into spring. With the Permatex the pins would have been frozen solid by now!

 

[mechtech2]

I never perceived the value of grease on the back of the pads.
Anti squeal sauce, yes - grease, no.

 

[Trav]

Well if this bugger does it again i will be getting some of that.
NAPA right?

 

[MetalSlug]

I have bad experiment with green thing in permatex in the past, it seize up my rear brake on my jeep and burn up my rotor, smoke so much I though i blow a head gasket, and I was out off town that time. I was thinking reuse the green stuff today, but lucky I could find that bottle any where in my garage, im glad I bought this purple stuff, i heard good thing about it.

 

[Trav]

Yep it was the purple stuff i had problems with drying out on GM front calipers.It seems fine on everything else including the rears on the same car.

 

[MetalSlug]

btw guys, im going to bleed the brake at the same time, should I change brake and bleed the system after it been driving or before it driving, reason im saying that, cause i was thinking same as changing oil, better change engine oil after it been driving. its same as for brake system ?

 

[Rooy]

Originally Posted By: CamaroT56
btw guys, im going to bleed the brake at the same time, should I change brake and bleed the system after it been driving or before it driving, reason im saying that, cause i was thinking same as changing oil, better change engine oil after it been driving. its same as for brake system ?


That same idea can't be applied to the brake system. Driving won't help suspend stuff in the brake fluid or anything.

 

[MetalSlug]

Originally Posted By: Rooy
Originally Posted By: CamaroT56
btw guys, im going to bleed the brake at the same time, should I change brake and bleed the system after it been driving or before it driving, reason im saying that, cause i was thinking same as changing oil, better change engine oil after it been driving. its same as for brake system ?


That same idea can't be applied to the brake system. Driving won't help suspend stuff in the brake fluid or anything.


thx, immma change brake when it still stone cold then ^^

 

[mechtech2]

Might as well bleed them when you have the we\heels off for the other brake work.
Better access and save a bunch of time.
They do not need to be warmed up or anything.

 

[MetalSlug]

Thx for advise, I did bleed all 4 brake, and flush with whole bottle of brake fluid, cause my old brake fluid is so darky. Next week imma do rear brake pad change, and flush and bleed brake system again.

 

[MetalSlug]

btw can I flush the brake system, by using just 1 corner, like front drive side. or I have to go all 4 corner ?

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
I never perceived the value of grease on the back of the pads.
Anti squeal sauce, yes - grease, no.


+1 I always spray the pad backs with the Permatex spray for disk brakes, shims and all. I never had a problem with brake noises using that stuff on the backs of the brakes, or any of the grease related problems mentioned ^^^^^.

 

[SteveSRT8]

GREASE? On a brake pad? Does anyone remember what happens when grease melts? That's just crazy.

Anti Squeal Sauce is readily available and cheap.

All my squeal problems are easily solved just by bedding the brakes.