Perma Cool Dual Remote Full Flow with Bypass

[Gary Allan]

Here's an older model valve. This one was used for years. Recently they modified it with a small hole through it so that it only moved during extreme visc/temp.

 

[Trucku]

THANKS GARY ALLEN AND NEBRASKAN FOR THE PICS.

Awesome...

Thanks so much...

 

[Nebraskan]

This is the picture of what I have, Trucku. The brass end is off, the spring is out and the ball bearing is out. The bearing goes in first, followed by the spring, then the end cap. Apparently it holds oil pressure going through this mount so that it goes first to the bypass and it gets a share of the pressure, and then it goes on to the full flow, as soon as the spring compresses under the oil pressure a bit, and then the full flow gets it's share. Goes through the full flow (small holes and out the center hole, back down the bracket and mixes with oil coming from the bypass filter and away they go back to the remote mount (pictured) that attaches to the spin-on oil filter space. Gary, please correct me if I'm wrong or I have this set up bass ackward or such

Second image is of the whole outfit with the brass plugs in and a better view of the mount for the oil spin-on adapter.

Unfortunately, I don't have room on either cars for this set up. So it sits in the shed. What I have enough room for is just a bypass filter element, which is why I have dwelt so long on the sandwich affair.

Really neat invention, using the spring and ball to help control oil flow. I would imagine it would even be able to be tweaked to some extent by the amount of spring tension, length, etc. on that spring either by shims or by different spring. You would need to use a pressure gage to determine the shift and what is acceptable using that method. For that matter, one with skills could drill and tap this mount and install a line for a pressure gage before and after the spring and get an idea of how much load is going through the filter, and could be an indication of when the filter 'ought' to be changed.
Vern

 

[Nebraskan]

Apparently Gary was posting a much superior picture with inserts as I was adding my pics. *S*

 

[Trucku]

Going to try to duplicate this. I will also have a pressure guage on the exit side of the filters to make sure I have flow. I will start with no valve idle benchmark then some incriments of 30mph or so to highway speed. Once I get them baselines it will be a start..lol. I will try to match up the spring as best as I can.

 

[XS650]

quote:

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Originally posted by Nebraskan:
Apparently Gary was posting a much superior picture with inserts as I was adding my pics. *S*

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You get extra points for photo composition because of the weathered wood background.

 

[Gary Allan]

Good deal. Just whatever you do, try and document it if you can ..sources ..part numbers, if applicable, and whatever ..that's if you buying parts and whatnot. Others will then be able to gain in the experience.


You've gotta love the information age

 

[Trucku]

Definately!

 

[Trucku]

Because of Santa, I was able to get myself a Frantz Bypass filter.

My current setup is a Perma Cool Dual remote mount, with a Baldwin B50 anda full flow. I will return it to stock. The nipple for the bypass spin on will come out and back goes in the 3/4 16 nipple. I will then run 2 full flows (B2 or wix 51515). I will take a unused port form the mount and feed my frants and a pressure guage. I will hook this up on the port after oil passes the 2 full flows. This way I know what my oil pressure is to my engine. The 2 full flows have 8# bypass valves, so cold starts wont starve my engine.

I bought my frants setup from "Plexx". He is a really nice person, and answered any questions about my kit

The kit is complete with hose and fittings. He is in my area and I was able to drive over to pick it up, and not have to wait

I did not want any possible hassles form ebay. He is a authorized distributor and stands by the product.
Hopefully I can get it installed later on today.