People blocking charging stations.

According to the CA Governor, 16 percent of vehicles registered in Cali are EV’s.
Wonder what it gonna be like when it goes to the 35% “wanted” in 2026 and the 68% in 2030?
Umm, I haven't read the rest of the posts, but sales of EV’s in California comprise 16%, not registrations. You must have meant new registrations, which would be correct. :)
 
Blocking charging stations at night time when power draw isn't as high is idiotic.
Depends on the time. 8PM yesterday and gas usage is peaking in Cali because the sun has gone down:
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Playing devil’s advocate here. All and any who block charging stations should be asked to leave. Anyone not doing so immediately should be arrested for trespassing.
Ain't gonna happen; Police have higher priorities. But I imagine if it did, most of this crap would stop.
There are knuckleheads everywhere.
 
Of course but within the context of the OP the energy restrictions in Calif are limited to early evening hours only. If the owner of an EV was attempting to adhere to that request then there's no harm/no foul correct?
With rolling blackouts threatened, I would say there is still a harm and/ or foul.
 
Playing devil’s advocate here. All and any who block charging stations should be asked to leave. Anyone not doing so immediately should be arrested for trespassing.


With police personnel stretched thin it might not be possible. Also lots of crimes don’t get any penalties these days.

People are making a big stink about those charging their cars at the wrong time without getting the whole story. Maybe the person charging is on a trip and they had to do it then? Maybe the person is working extra hours or has a last minute trip for business reasons? There are tons of reasons why someone might have to charge at that hour.

The bigger problem are these Gladys Kravitz wannabes jumping all over these people before getting the whole story.
 
With rolling blackouts threatened, I would say there is still a harm and/ or foul.


A blackout could provide a lesson for a lot of people. Learn to adapt. Learn to help those that might need help like the elderly. People could actually get together and talk to each other.

If this old fogey can survive several weeks without power in much hotter conditions then it can be done for a few hours.
 
A blackout could provide a lesson for a lot of people. Learn to adapt. Learn to help those that might need help like the elderly. People could actually get together and talk to each other.

If this old fogey can survive several weeks without power in much hotter conditions then it can be done for a few hours.

While I am completely for all of the California folk learning a (hard) lesson, that is not the way to treat people.

Why don’t we do a policy change? Just this week a nuclear plant was allowed to stay running.
 
While I am completely for all of the California folk learning a (hard) lesson, that is not the way to treat people.

Why don’t we do a policy change? Just this week a nuclear plant was allowed to stay running.
The policies are there for "undesirable" sources to be used during high demand events. The heat itself is unprecedented.

We had the same thing - reduce usage at 4pm - last year I think, but only for a day. This time it is 5 days with little overnight cooling.
 
While I am completely for all of the California folk learning a (hard) lesson, that is not the way to treat people.

Why don’t we do a policy change? Just this week a nuclear plant was allowed to stay running.



And that is just keeping the status quo. Nothing has been gained.

If they had taken their high speed train funds and invested in power generation instead, maybe this conversation wouldn’t be happening.

Isn’t that train powered by electricity? 😮😳
 
And that is just keeping the status quo. Nothing has been gained.

If they had taken their high speed train funds and invested in power generation instead, maybe this conversation wouldn’t be happening.

Isn’t that train powered by electricity? 😮😳
Base your opinions on current events.

The electric high speed train is how old? I’ll be polite and say 10 years.
 
The policies are there for "undesirable" sources to be used during high demand events. The heat itself is unprecedented.

We had the same thing - reduce usage at 4pm - last year I think, but only for a day. This time it is 5 days with little overnight cooling.
Unprecedented? Is it really?

Nuclear is not unreliable. I am sorry. You’re wrong.
 
Unprecedented? Is it really?

Nuclear is not unreliable. I am sorry. You’re wrong.
Yes there is record breaking temperature across the state and the number of days of the heatwave is unprecedented.

I said "undesirable" not "unreliable". It mostly relates to sources that break rules on air pollution.

I am a big fan of nuclear btw.
 
Yes there is record breaking temperature across the state and the number of days of the heatwave is unprecedented.

I said "undesirable" not "unreliable". It mostly relates to sources that break rules on air pollution.

I am a big fan of nuclear btw.
What temperatures make it unprecedented? Hot weather happens and then it doesn’t, but I’m curious.

*I’m glad you’re a nuclear fan. Too bad many people in your boat aren’t.
 
We have been asked to conserve electricity between 4PM and 9PM to help the overstressed grid. This includes EV charging, AC, clothes dryers, ovens, etc. All contribute.
AC is the biggie, of course, We have been advised to cool to 70* and then set to 78* at 4PM
That was mentioned in another thread, and it shocks me again in this one. To conserve energy, Californians are asked to run their A/C at 70 degrees during the day. Not 72. or 74. The energy problem doesn't sound like much of a problem if the powers that be are advising 70 degrees during the day.

Yes, the worst time is 4pm to 9pm, but with all the headlines California is making about power problems, it's still surprising 70 degrees is still advised at any time.
 
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