Pennzoil Platinum vs Boutique brands

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I see that, 5K OCI seems to do fine most of the time, although it seems like some engines can chew up oil prior to that... but my Honda engine certainly isn't one of those.

With this Accord (2.4L), I drive 25 miles to work and back on the freeway with some stop and go traffic, no short trips (I use my truck for those), how long do you think I can safely go with this PP? The manual says 10k for normal or 5k severe service...
 
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I see that, 5K OCI seems to do fine most of the time, although it seems like some engines can chew up oil prior to that... but my Honda engine certainly isn't one of those.

With this Accord (2.4L), I drive 25 miles to work and back on the freeway with some stop and go traffic, no short trips (I use my truck for those), how long do you think I can safely go with this PP? The manual says 10k for normal or 5k severe service...


10k for normal and 5k for severe that is what the book says no?
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That would be long enough. Your service would be normal. A uoa would be a good idea to go longer but would cost around $20 ish dollars that would be a good part of the oil change$$$ better to change the oil when it is still good than wait till it needs changing.
 
All I meant to say is that PP is a good product, Mobil 1 has better marketing. It's more difficult to pour marketing into your engine and if that is true then try a better oil instead. And the boutique oils are not site sponsors so we can't post a link, so if you don't have Google you will never find them. Does anyone know why we don't have a boutique oil company for a site sponsor?
 
Scout, consider not a miles-based OCI, but a time-based one. Time OCI has advantages, it accounts for short-tripping and long hwy drivers. It allows visc changes for seasons. Getting fresh oil in time for winter cold is a good idea. It makes scheduling easier too. 2-3-4 times a year seems ideal. I say pick an oil that allows the *anticipated* miles in the *chosen* interval.

Right now, I switched from 4 months to 3 months OCI in my woman's Honda with semi-synth oil. I do the same with synth oil in my car because I drive much more miles and my car is newer. 3 months is like 5000 miles for her, 8000 for me. No sense in changing any good oil before 6000 miles, if you do that in 3 months, that your interval. More like 4 months? Go for that. It's better than counting exact miles until change time. I hate that. People driving 10-12k a year need ony 2 changes and it's better if evenly spaced w/fresh W-rated oil in cold. I do mine exactly at the calender start of the seasons, since the actual temp extreme is about a month-6 weeks after that. I don't want to be out there Feb 1st doing an OC.
 
I think I'm going to adopt your way of doing it, Auto-Union. Seems to make more sense. I just oci'd both of my vehicles this week, so I'm hoping to make it until spring, so I'm not changing oil in the cold.
 
Well if PP was being sold for .99 or 1.50 around here yes it would be a great choice, but its the same price as M1 and the other synthetics. So, with prices equal I would reach for the M1 over PP.

Dennis
 
I think that PP is a very good oil from reading UOA's on this site. It probably is better than current M1 in the weights that I use -5w20 in the Honda and 5w30 in the GM. However the SL version of M1 in 0w20 and 0w30 were better than PP IMO. I'm glad I still have some.
 
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Well if PP was being sold for .99 or 1.50 around here yes it would be a great choice, but its the same price as M1 and the other synthetics. So, with prices equal I would reach for the M1 over PP.

Dennis



I'm sorry....I want to be sure I understand you...your saying you will pay $5-$6 bucks for Mobil1 and only if PP is $1.50 would you switch? Do you think Mobil1 gives 600% better results?
 
I'm saying price being equal I would not buy it. How many
folks would purchase PP at the same pricing of the other synthetics ? Price seems to be the compelling factor when purchasing PP , buy one get one free etc. I don't know if I would switch as I personally don't care for Pennzoil or QS but at the econo prices stated it may be an option, if not for me, perhaps for others.

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I'm saying price being equal I would not buy it. How many
folks would purchase PP at the same pricing of the other synthetics ? Price seems to be the compelling factor when purchasing PP , buy one get one free etc. I don't know if I would switch as I personally don't care for Pennzoil or QS but at the econo prices stated it may be an option, if not for me, perhaps for others.

Dennis



OK Thanks....now I understand what you meant....I strongly disagree.....you should see the results of Mobil1 versus PP on the Muscle Car forums.....you wouldn't reach for Mobil1 much longer.....PP is returning outstanding results...Mobil1 is returning average middle of the road results. I think Mobil1 is a good middle of the road oil....overpriced for the results for sure....so if both Mobil1 and PP were equal in price I would still reach for PP as the results are better.
 
I have no doubts that PP shows lower wear numbers than M1, however whether you really will ever notice the differences in terms of engine life is another story. The engines in most cars will outlive most of the vehicle and by then you'll want a new car anyway. M1's best quality is keeping the engine clean and deposit free.
 
I tried PP shortly after it came out. My engine was quieter that the M1 & M1 EP I had in my truck..
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Since I was in experiment mode, I went to Amsoil ASL and was pleased with it, but the engine was a little more noist than the PP, but not as noisy as the M1
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Sooo, after running a few runs of Amsoil, I went back to PP and am running it now.
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I'll be sticking with PP in the engine & Amsoil in every other hole.
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What Quaker State products are similar to the PP? I just put some Q Advance in my car and was planning on picking up another 6 qts for free after rebate at O'Reilly's this weekend.
 
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2-3-4 times a year seems ideal.




Most people truly fall into this scheme and don't even think about it. They use mileage as the ticker ..but most people like to fall into even numbers into the year. The mileage is often coincidental. That's why you see "5857 miles" and all the other oddball mileage. It works out in their seasonal (or bi-annual) scheme. "I wanted to get it in before the holidays" "I wanted to get the winter oil out" ..etc..etc. They don't like to "carry over" into another year where the OCI will fall at an inconvenient time. It may be more a tendency in places that see more radical change in temp during the winter (or summer for that matter).
 
Most of us DIY types who live in areas that see real cold try to plan oil changes to avoid having to do them when it will likely be really cold.
In this part pf the country, however, change is constant, and the below zero temps that often follow a heavy snow may be followed a week later with temps well above freezing.
 
IMHO I think PP has proven to be an steller performer across the board from High Preformance Cars to Every day grocery getters. It has proven its worth. Plus when you get in on discount. That is an outstand value.
 
For most of us, I would think, it would be harder to target a random whim of the whether than it would to just arrange your maintenance schedule to have your hiatus cover the 3 month winter. This is naturally referring to a DIY crowd. Youth and/or a heated garage can alter the disposition.

But then again, it may be like the ice cream truck vendor says, "Eef 60 dekreese in A-preel, gOOOd beesnez. 60 decreese in Occrober, no buy". One the people are wearing tee shirts ..the other sweaters.
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YMMV
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Most of us DIY types who live in areas that see real cold try to plan oil changes to avoid having to do them when it will likely be really cold.



Yep.

For me it's 6 month intervals;
- mid to late April - get the winter oil out and hopefully no more snow

- late October - get fresh oil in for the winter - not too cold but could come at any time
 
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