It's more of non-issue then anything but I've seen the fallout in my bottles also that I bought about 2 months ago at Walmart. Oil analysis hasn't really shown anything bad. I will try mixing It next time.
Pennzoil Fallout problem - possible solution
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If I thought it was a real serious problem I wouldn't have used the oil.
The shaking of the product comes from a lifetime of working with paint, it carried over.
And once again Pennzoil isn't the only oil that has this problem. Maybe the companies that are supplying the additives should take note here.
I was agreeing with you; doing the extra steps (like heating it up) just to use the oil even though Shell has explained what it is, is silly imo
If I thought it was a real serious problem I wouldn't have used the oil.
And once again Pennzoil isn't the only oil that has this problem. Maybe the companies that are supplying the additives should take note here.
I was agreeing with you; doing the extra steps (like heating it up) just to use the oil even though Shell has explained what it is, is silly imo
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Interesting. However, you will never see me taking the time to heat a bottle to solve this "additive fall out problem" that seems to be ruining millions of engines and throwing off VOAs due to lower numbers. Oh wait...
Seriously, just shake and go. For the amount of time spent, there is probably no benefit to this "issue." Has anyone actually confirmed that this residue is actually meaningful additives? It happens to many oils just not Pennzoil.....
Agreed, I usually give my bottles or quarts a healthy shake before pouring it. Never had an issue with it ever.
If you were concerned I would take some pictures and send it to Pennzoil. See what they have to say about it.
Interesting. However, you will never see me taking the time to heat a bottle to solve this "additive fall out problem" that seems to be ruining millions of engines and throwing off VOAs due to lower numbers. Oh wait...
Seriously, just shake and go. For the amount of time spent, there is probably no benefit to this "issue." Has anyone actually confirmed that this residue is actually meaningful additives? It happens to many oils just not Pennzoil.....
Agreed, I usually give my bottles or quarts a healthy shake before pouring it. Never had an issue with it ever.
If you were concerned I would take some pictures and send it to Pennzoil. See what they have to say about it.
Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
If you were concerned I would take some pictures and send it to Pennzoil. See what they have to say about it.
People have, and Pennzoil says it's not a problem. "It's Nanotechnology. Don't worry about it."
Personally I'd like to see oil two VOAs from the same bottle. Half of the bottle after simply shaking it, and the other half warmed and shaken until the residue goes back into suspension.
If you were concerned I would take some pictures and send it to Pennzoil. See what they have to say about it.
People have, and Pennzoil says it's not a problem. "It's Nanotechnology. Don't worry about it."
Personally I'd like to see oil two VOAs from the same bottle. Half of the bottle after simply shaking it, and the other half warmed and shaken until the residue goes back into suspension.
It's interesting...
If I went to the pub and the barman pulled me a pint which was hazy or had bits in it, I wouldn't say 'Oh, it's just a few stray yeast particles, there's no harm in it'. I'd refuse it and ask for a proper pint! I suspect any self-respecting Englishman would do exactly the same because decent beer is ours by ancient birthright.
Why anyone would apply different standards to what you pour into your sump and what you pour down your neck is beyond me.
If I went to the pub and the barman pulled me a pint which was hazy or had bits in it, I wouldn't say 'Oh, it's just a few stray yeast particles, there's no harm in it'. I'd refuse it and ask for a proper pint! I suspect any self-respecting Englishman would do exactly the same because decent beer is ours by ancient birthright.
Why anyone would apply different standards to what you pour into your sump and what you pour down your neck is beyond me.
Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
It's interesting...
If I went to the pub and the barman pulled me a pint which was hazy or had bits in it, I wouldn't say 'Oh, it's just a few stray yeast particles, there's no harm in it'. I'd refuse it and ask for a proper pint! I suspect any self-respecting Englishman would do exactly the same because decent beer is ours by ancient birthright.
Why anyone would apply different standards to what you pour into your sump and what you pour down your neck is beyond me.
But what if I prefer a Hefeweizen or Belgian Witbier?
It's interesting...
If I went to the pub and the barman pulled me a pint which was hazy or had bits in it, I wouldn't say 'Oh, it's just a few stray yeast particles, there's no harm in it'. I'd refuse it and ask for a proper pint! I suspect any self-respecting Englishman would do exactly the same because decent beer is ours by ancient birthright.
Why anyone would apply different standards to what you pour into your sump and what you pour down your neck is beyond me.
But what if I prefer a Hefeweizen or Belgian Witbier?
Imagine what the bottom of the 55 gal drums and 250 gal tanks looks like! Id imagine the last couple quarts coming out of a tank must be full of the additives...like a super oil concentrate!
I would and do just give my jugs a shake...as long as the bulk of the ad pack makes into the engine who cares...it will mix in the sump or on the filter media i promise!
I would and do just give my jugs a shake...as long as the bulk of the ad pack makes into the engine who cares...it will mix in the sump or on the filter media i promise!
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I have a half quart of M1 10W40 High Mileage that's been sitting around for awhile. All of the grooves in the bottom of the bottle have turned black,as well as a dark ring around the bottom. If I still have it,I'll post pictures of it eventually.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I have a half quart of M1 10W40 High Mileage that's been sitting around for awhile. All of the grooves in the bottom of the bottle have turned black,as well as a dark ring around the bottom. If I still have it,I'll post pictures of it eventually.
It's by no means conclusive but if you can get some of the black gunk and put it in a blue gas flame, if the flame turns yellowy-green, it might suggest it's Moly.
Yoh science Mr White!!
I have a half quart of M1 10W40 High Mileage that's been sitting around for awhile. All of the grooves in the bottom of the bottle have turned black,as well as a dark ring around the bottom. If I still have it,I'll post pictures of it eventually.
It's by no means conclusive but if you can get some of the black gunk and put it in a blue gas flame, if the flame turns yellowy-green, it might suggest it's Moly.
Yoh science Mr White!!
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If I thought it was a real serious problem I wouldn't have used the oil.
The shaking of the product comes from a lifetime of working with paint, it carried over.
And once again Pennzoil isn't the only oil that has this problem. Maybe the companies that are supplying the additives should take note here.
I was agreeing with you; doing the extra steps (like heating it up) just to use the oil even though Shell has explained what it is, is silly imo
I agree with you too.
My point is if I thought it was a problem, I'd recycle the oil, or give it away, whatever, it wouldn't be in my engine.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If I thought it was a real serious problem I wouldn't have used the oil.
And once again Pennzoil isn't the only oil that has this problem. Maybe the companies that are supplying the additives should take note here.
I was agreeing with you; doing the extra steps (like heating it up) just to use the oil even though Shell has explained what it is, is silly imo
I agree with you too.
Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
It's by no means conclusive but if you can get some of the black gunk and put it in a blue gas flame, if the flame turns yellowy-green, it might suggest it's Moly.
Yoh science Mr White!!
LOL
It's by no means conclusive but if you can get some of the black gunk and put it in a blue gas flame, if the flame turns yellowy-green, it might suggest it's Moly.
Yoh science Mr White!!
LOL
It is also an expectation thing. You market such a high quality oil and there is an expectation it will be perfect.
I think PP was in part created by a woman, she has a channel called "Engine Girl" on YT and is in many Pennzoil vids praising it and mentioning she is on the team(she is an Engineer). She is stunning too!
I think PP was in part created by a woman, she has a channel called "Engine Girl" on YT and is in many Pennzoil vids praising it and mentioning she is on the team(she is an Engineer). She is stunning too!
The chic in this video is not so stunning if that's who you are talking about..
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