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As I mentioned a few times before, as long as there still are dual rated ones available, I'll be happy.
I haven't seen much from Mobil on the matter, but they're obviously not sitting on their hands in this matter. They were at the forefront with an E6, E7, E9 lubricant, and I'm sure they'll be ready for this.
After all, like I also mentioned before, when CJ-4 came out, Imperial Oil got rid of the CI-4+ before I could blink.
After all, like I also mentioned before, when CJ-4 came out, Imperial Oil got rid of the CI-4+ before I could blink.
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Thanks Garak,
Should I continue to stock up on CJ-4 oils? Didn't have a diesel when CJ-4 came out, so not sure of any learning curves in the oil technology?
Absolutely no. CK-4 is a better technology and backward compatible with CJ-4 -- better base oils (more synthetic or synthetic-like), better additives.
Thanks Garak,
Should I continue to stock up on CJ-4 oils? Didn't have a diesel when CJ-4 came out, so not sure of any learning curves in the oil technology?
Absolutely no. CK-4 is a better technology and backward compatible with CJ-4 -- better base oils (more synthetic or synthetic-like), better additives.
I like the version of the Stribeck curve -- fundamental curve of lubrication -- in the latter reference:
Also, many HDEOs will be synthetic in the future and this article mentions how synthetic oil helps keep the wear down especially when thinner oils are used:
http://www.whatispc-11.com/focus-synthetics-future-diesel-engine-oils
Also, many HDEOs will be synthetic in the future and this article mentions how synthetic oil helps keep the wear down especially when thinner oils are used:
http://www.whatispc-11.com/focus-synthetics-future-diesel-engine-oils
Lubrizol link www.hddeo.com/introducingpc-11.html
Oronite; https://www.oronite.com/products/pc11.asp
Oronite; https://www.oronite.com/products/pc11.asp
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www.truckinginfo.com/article/list/tag/pc-11.aspx
Followed by a video on how to trap and skin a raccoon????
Followed by a video on how to trap and skin a raccoon????
It gets even worse. PC-11 will come in two flavors.... PC-11A and PC-11B, or CK-4 and FA-4 or whatever nomenclature they dream up.
http://www.truckinginfo.com/article/story/2015/07/two-oil-categories-rolling-to-the-finish-line.aspx
http://www.truckinginfo.com/article/story/2015/07/two-oil-categories-rolling-to-the-finish-line.aspx
Originally Posted By: mbacfp
Should I continue to stock up on CJ-4 oils? Didn't have a diesel when CJ-4 came out, so not sure of any learning curves in the oil technology?
I joke about it, but I'd say no. The oil companies aren't going to give away a pile of sales on vehicles that use CJ-4 or older on the upside of selling oil for vehicles that do not yet exist. Backwards compatibility has been the cornerstone of API service categories, and will remain so. There will be part of the specification that won't be backwards compatible, but the other part will be.
The high HTHS component of the PC-11 specification will be backwards compatible, as always, and perfectly serviceable for earlier categories. Of course, there will always be people worried that the older was better, but that doesn't tend to actually manifest itself in the end.
Should I continue to stock up on CJ-4 oils? Didn't have a diesel when CJ-4 came out, so not sure of any learning curves in the oil technology?
I joke about it, but I'd say no. The oil companies aren't going to give away a pile of sales on vehicles that use CJ-4 or older on the upside of selling oil for vehicles that do not yet exist. Backwards compatibility has been the cornerstone of API service categories, and will remain so. There will be part of the specification that won't be backwards compatible, but the other part will be.
The high HTHS component of the PC-11 specification will be backwards compatible, as always, and perfectly serviceable for earlier categories. Of course, there will always be people worried that the older was better, but that doesn't tend to actually manifest itself in the end.
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Might as well put these from GF-6 topic here to save looking all over the board for information.
www.oilspecifications.org
www.gf-6.com
www.api.org
www.oilspecifications.org
www.gf-6.com
www.api.org
Yes, a reminder of two specs splitting into four.
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