Originally Posted By: Mystic
If there were people here doing cleanings with Auto-RX and then using MMO or Neutra for the rinse period they should in my opinion have made that information available to everybody-just as a public service so to speak. Of course Frank probably would have said something about that when he was still a member here. He was not a happy camper with discussion of any other product, especially solvents of any kind.
When I was told by this arx moderator that it was fine to use Neutra or MMO during the Rinse Phase he asked me not to tell anyone his identity because of what Frank Miller would say. I remember when Frank found out I was using MMO in my fuel, he was very upset. When I was on the arx board, all we could talk about was arx, there was no mention of any other oil additives.
I have never heard Rich Kelley on the MMO Forums say that MMO is the best oil additive for cleaning engines, yet arx touts themselves as the best additive for cleaning engines and at the same time they put down other oil additives. I can even remember Frank Miller attacking Schaeffer's Neutra as a dangerous engine cleaner because he said it had solvents in it. I also remember reading a Gunk Motor Flush Thread and Frank Miller jumps in and says the product will destroy the guys engine, it was almost like a scare tactic to get people to buy his product.
I am just wondering where are the tests that these other oil additives are bad for our engines, any mention of another product on the arx forum gets shot down with Frank Miller saying we do not talk about solvent products on this board.
There was even a member on the arx board that had an engine that was seriously sludged and gunked up, this engine was obviously way beyond arx or any other oil additive, and Frank says just follow the Application Instructions and all will be fine. It was not fine, after the person put arx into the engine it was not even 24 hours later when this vehicle blew almost 2 quarts of oil out of the tailpipe. When the customer reported this to Frank, his response was, well you had a Mechanical problem, the thread was then deleted by Frank Miller, I did copy it before it was deleted.
I remember asking Frank Miller about my Dad's seriously gunked up engine in his 1979 Pontiac Bonneville with 200,000 miles, he said just follow the Application Instructions for arx and everything will be fine, of course I did not use arx in his engine.
I then asked Rich Kelley over at MMO, and he advised me that if I used MMO to clean up his engine that I could have some serious leaks and he said that sometimes you have to take an engine apart to manually clean things when they get really gunked up.
It would be nice if Frank Miller could warn people that his product might not work on a seriously sludged or gunked up engine instead he just says, follow the Application Instructions and all will be fine.
