A huge thanks to the brave Fire Fighters and all who are helping. This will be on the Loma Prieta scale... It's bad.
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Pacific Palisades Wildfire
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I streamed KFI Los Angeles at work this morning. A fire chief told people when you need to abandon your vehicle, leave it unlocked with the key in it so it can be moved. They had to bulldoze vehicles out of their way.
They need to constantly clear all the grass off the hills, fields etc. and brush etc. As can be seen the rare endangered prairie frog now has no place left, bulldozer tracks and dirt is way better than what is happening now.
This all helps insurance go to the moon. Maybe time to start putting homes underground.
This all helps insurance go to the moon. Maybe time to start putting homes underground.
Can you imagine being a Firefighter and finding out you have no WATER to fight the fire? That is just ridiculous.
All to save the Delta Smelt.
All to save the Delta Smelt.
SOCAL is the most heavily irrigated land in the USA, that is not farm land.
One of my friends in Santa Monica is watching the evacuation warning creep closer to her.
On the news last night they were showing a senior care facility in Alta Dena that had to evacuate. They had everyone in wheelchairs or gurneys in a 7-11 parking lot. Fortunately a bunch of vans came to load them as well as busses with ramps. Just a complete worst case scenario.
On the news last night they were showing a senior care facility in Alta Dena that had to evacuate. They had everyone in wheelchairs or gurneys in a 7-11 parking lot. Fortunately a bunch of vans came to load them as well as busses with ramps. Just a complete worst case scenario.
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You can also blame lawsuits that stop forest management from completing controlled burns and cutting down trees to prevent fires.
https://www.courthousenews.com/cons...g-trees-burning-land-in-two-california-parks/
You can also blame the state by diverting / wasting water to protect some tiny fish rather than using it towards fire prevention. Is this actually true? I don't know, there is a lot of talk about lopsided environmental rules protecting a 3" fish rather than saving water to protect humans.
Anyway, God bless those firefighters and those who lost their homes, hopefully they can find a place to live and rebuild quickly.
It all started when the worthless government stopped controlled burns and cutting when needed. The native Americans did that for generations and they had no peer reviewed papers or fancy anything. They did controlled burns for a reason. In the infinite wisdom of the modern times with new and old knowledge here we are having easily preventable wild fires because the government just refuses to do proper wildfire management like how the natives did.
The issue being is at least one of these is a urban fire- of undetermined cause,making your statement not applicable in the Palisade fire.
I would humbly ask we keep politics outta this thread.
SoCal could sure use a whole bunch of those new Bombardier fire fighting planes right now!
There isn't a general shortage of water in California at this time. Firefighting is exempt from water usage restrictions. Urban distribution piping systems are not designed to support a large number of fire hydrants in use at one time. Reducing river flow too much allows salt water to back up inland, which affects people as well as fish. Boring small fish are what big tasty fish eat to stay alive. Some people will believe anything.
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Tomorrow at 02.00pm I have workshop here about wildfire prevention, mitigation and fighting. Do you want to come and give a talk? All fire department representatives from CO will be there. Bcs. we never thought of bulldozing grass.
I mean, let’s be serious.
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There are no bunch of them. They are on back order so much that if you order today, they would be delivered in 2030. Not sure whether SDFD still has CL415’s on lease from Canada. They usually lease them September-December during Santa Ana’s. I bet some will make their way there soon from Canada.
CalFire probably has best fleet in the US. I think they have 12 new SH-70 FireHawks.
But, this is beyond capabilities of just one region.
Also, 100mph gusts are really, really bad when you fly so close to terrain. They had to stop flying yesterday.
There is no man made solution here. They will have to figure out zoning there.
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