Ahh ha! So thicker is better.
OW-16 vs 0W-20 viscosity specs - does it really matter.
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Yeah, film strength (AF/AW package) can only give a lower viscosity a crutch that at some point will also fail to prevent wear. Film thickness from viscosity is the main wear mitigator, and when parts are actually touching and rubbing more and more is when the sacrificial film strength's wear mitigation comes in. But it can only do so much before it too fails to keep wear down.Ahh ha! So thicker is better.
I would only run 5w30, but that’s me. I ran it in my cars and trucks ever since the turn of the century, my latest on 08 Tundra, wife’s two 4 runners and now my Land cruiser. Never had any engine issues ever.
I don’t see the point in trying to go so thin, unless it’s the EPA trying to squeeze every bit of fuel economy for emissions out of the vehicle these days, to keep our sell out Politicians happy.
I don’t see the point in trying to go so thin, unless it’s the EPA trying to squeeze every bit of fuel economy for emissions out of the vehicle these days, to keep our sell out Politicians happy.
Ahh ha! So thicker is better.
Not necessarily, since my car is a fuel diluter, I put Xw-30 which ends up like 0w-20 in viscosity, exactly what is recommended by manufacturer
Honda?
Yup, GDI
If you do mostly short trip driving 16 is pretty awesome.
If not 20 might suit your engine better.
No, it does not care. I have two of these vehicles ('21 and '22 Toyotas) and run 5w30 in both year around in Maine. No issues whatsoever.
You took the car to a Toyota dealer and you think they just put in the cheapest crap around? They put in genuine Toyota oil. Why do people think this stuff?
My local Toyota does not unless you are paying extra. My VW dealer doesn’t either.
Dealers like to make a profit on oil changes, just like Jiffy Lube does. Expensive lubricants don't always factor into that equation.
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Yup, unless it's an SRT or a diesel, my dealer uses bulk oil too.
Who can blame them? If asked with zero context, the average person would likely say MOFT is the name of an underground heavy metal band or something.
My dealer claims to use bulk TGMO 0W-20, even on "free" oil changes.
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Have you got it sampled? Would be relatively easy to check.
Sorry but I just cannot believe this. At least not a dealer in the US. Perhaps you're not in the US? If you are, you should be raising absolute hell with them. One star reviews every time. Complaints to Toyota and Volkswagen of North America. Ridiculous. Absolutely no excuses.
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Dealers aren't required to use OE branded oil and most of their "spill and fill" lube services use bulk unless the vehicle calls for a specific spec that isn't common enough or isn't available on a bulk product.
Local Ford dealer here a few years ago started pushing Mobil 1 for example, while Ford has no relationship with Mobil. This was the dealer's choice.
I don't know what kind of places you are doing business with, but that would immediately lose me as a customer. You should also complain to the vehicle manufacturer. Castrol Edge Professional etc. along with exact weight are mentioned on ALL of my receipts, free oil changes or not from ALL of my VW dealers and my Volvo dealer. The relationship of the dealer with the manufacturer gets them the factory parts and fluids that go with your vehicle. There is none of this "spill and fill" bulk crap. Do they give you autozone control arm bushings too? I mean come on.
Meh it’s not a big deal. The oil the dealer uses meets the license or approval requirement listed in the manual. There is no way the manufacturer branded product is somehow magically better. And if I believed it was, I would ask them to use it and they would. But it will cost me more.
Not one of the things I plant my flag on the hill and fight to the death. Besides, in the case of my VW I didn’t want them to use the oil listed in the manual. I asked for 504 00 approval instead and that’s what I got. Still not VW brand however.
Not one of the things I plant my flag on the hill and fight to the death. Besides, in the case of my VW I didn’t want them to use the oil listed in the manual. I asked for 504 00 approval instead and that’s what I got. Still not VW brand however.
Yeah I don’t think so.
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