A proper break in will keep oil consumption to a minimum if any.
Over the years, I have been either owned or have been responsible for (through small fleet management) over 25 different vehicles. The majority of these vehicles have been Fords (variety of cars and trucks) followed closely by GM trucks, with a Toyota FJ Cruiser, a Toyota forklift (4Y LPG engine), a Mazda Protégé, and a Mitsubishi forklift (CAT branded, LPG engine) thrown in for variety. Not once have I ever had to top off the oil in any of these vehicles. A few of them have been right on the low end of the dipstick when it came time for an oil change, but they were still in the good range. It's not like I was changing every 3K miles either. Many of these vehicles, especially the fleet ones, go for well over 7K miles with the newer Fords going 10K to 12K miles between changes.
Reading around this place, it seems like there are some people that no matter what they do, every vehicle they ever own needs to be topped off at some point. Am I just really lucky or is topping off not as common anymore as it may seem to be reading around here? What about all of you? Are you like me and never have to top off or do you tend to drive vehicles that just can't keep oil in them no matter what?
I'm actually surprised I haven't had more issues with the GDI engines. I've had a Focus with the 2L GDI, a new Transit Connect with the same engine, an F150 Gen 2 3.5L EB, and an F150 2.7L EB. None of them ever had any issues with oil. I know some people with GDI have serious issues.In my life I've owned 7 used cars. None needed topping off.
Before the second purchase an old mechanic showed how to inspect the tailpipe for oily deposits.
That helped me avoid probable oil burners.
My latest car has GDI, so a little dry soot is acceptable.
None. I avoid the 5.0. I have one '18 F150 (which is actually the fleet truck that I use) and I went with the 2.7L EB they had to ship from out of state instead of the 5.0 they had on the lot. They really wanted me to take that 5.0.How many '18 5.0 Ford's in that fleet?
None. I avoid the 5.0. I have one '18 F150 (which is actually the fleet truck that I use) and I went with the 2.7L EB they had to ship from out of state instead of the 5.0 they had on the lot. They really wanted me to take that 5.0.
That 2.7L is great.
That's definitely true. I have heard nothing but problems with the 5.0 and oil consumption. That's the main reason I avoid them. A quart every 1,200 miles is just insane for a fleet vehicle. I'd have to top it off constantly.I was just making the point that certain vehicles are a bit oil consumption prone. I have never seen an '18 5.0 that could go 10,000 mi without using a quart of oil. They may very well exist but I've been personally aquatinted with about a half dozen and all of them used at least 2 quarts in 10,000 mi (Worst was about a quart every 1,200 mi even after the PCV fix).
I'm very impressed with the 2.7EB as well. Good engine. Hopefully they updated the oil pan in 2018 which was the only real issue on the '15-17 engines.
Over the years, I have been either owned or have been responsible for (through small fleet management) over 25 different vehicles. The majority of these vehicles have been Fords (variety of cars and trucks) followed closely by GM trucks, with a Toyota FJ Cruiser, a Toyota forklift (4Y LPG engine), a Mazda Protégé, and a Mitsubishi forklift (CAT branded, LPG engine) thrown in for variety. Not once have I ever had to top off the oil in any of these vehicles. A few of them have been right on the low end of the dipstick when it came time for an oil change, but they were still in the good range. It's not like I was changing every 3K miles either. Many of these vehicles, especially the fleet ones, go for well over 7K miles with the newer Fords going 10K to 12K miles between changes.
Reading around this place, it seems like there are some people that no matter what they do, every vehicle they ever own needs to be topped off at some point. Am I just really lucky or is topping off not as common anymore as it may seem to be reading around here? What about all of you? Are you like me and never have to top off or do you tend to drive vehicles that just can't keep oil in them no matter what?
I have experience with a Sprinter 3500. I usually only ever used synthetic Euro 5w-40 in it and definitely never had any issues with consumption. That engine was a beast. One of my employees filled it up with gas once, drove it back to the shop and let it idle while he was loading it up. It stopped running after about 10 minutes. After we figured out what happened, we purged all the gas out of it and filled it back up with diesel. Drained the oil and put in the cheapest 15w-40 we could get. The thing started and we ran it for 10 min, drained the oil and filled it again. Did that two more times until we couldn't smell gas anymore and ran the thing hard through 1/4 tank of diesel then drained the 15w-40 out of it one more time and filled it back up with the synthetic 5w-40. That thing was still running 2 years later when I sold it.Here is what i noticed over the years on a many engines (all Mercedes but some gassers and some diesel) :
Every time, synthetic 5W40 even the cheap stuff, seems to burn less than semi-synthetic 10W40.
If i fill up an engine up to the top mark, oil consumption is always higher until it's down to the middle of the dipstick.
On neglected engines, synthetic may reveal leaks but maybe this had more to do with me buying a cheap car that's not been driven much and just starting to do oil changes and driving it a lot.
However, extensive italian tune-ups with a few short OCIs with synthetic can really bring consumption down on this type of cars.
On my daily driver, i fill up to the middle of the dipstick with only 5L instead of 5.5L and usually add 0.5L to keep the oil level right in the middle after around 7000 km or simply do an oil change.
In my experience so far, synthetic + oil level in the middle + lots of highway driving + italian tune-ups = the lowest oil consumption.
However there are a few low Noack, Group II/III, SN 15W40 i am willing to try next, maybe these could work well too.
Do those vehicles have dipsticks calibrated for 1qt between Add and Full? That seems like a huge amount of oil to lose before topping off. I know not all dipsticks are calibrated for a 1qt difference.I top off the oil level in my vehicles when they get down 1/2 qt. In my Fords with a 4 qt. capacity if I allow them to get to the add mark on the dipstick I'm running 25% below maximum capacity. My Nissan Versa takes about 3 quarts to fill it on an oil/filter change so if it got to the add mark it would be about 33% below maximum capacity. A couple of my Fords with over 200K miles usually get topped off one time (1/2 qt.) between changes. Sometimes when the OCI rolls around they'll be about 1/2 qt. low again and sometimes not. The Versa is usually only about 1/8-1/4" below the full mark at time for an oil change so probably wouldn't need more than 4-8 oz. to bring it back to the full mark. I bought a new Buick with a 350 in it in 1977. It used oil from day one. I had an '88 Ford Escort that didn't start using enough to bother replacing until it had 250-300K miles.
I know the Fords are a quart low when they hit the add mark. I can't say for sure about the Nissan but I've always assumed it would be a quart low at the add mark. Next time I change the oil in the Versa if I don't forget I'll put two qts. in then check to see where it is on the dipstick. Every car I've owned since buying my first one in '70's was a quart low at the add mark.Do those vehicles have dipsticks calibrated for 1qt between Add and Full? That seems like a huge amount of oil to lose before topping off. I know not all dipstick