Original EcoGard S195 Synthetic Cut Open

[Fair enough]

Too bad an American company can't produce products as good as this.

The PG baseplate is a copy of Purolator, but they didn’t need to spend $$ developing it like Purolator.

 

[DannyM]

It's not that they can't. But paying workers in America a livable wage, they can't compete with China where they pay slave wages. Add in all the fees and environmental regulations and they can't compete on price.

They can produce good quality but then no one would buy the filters because they would be too expensive. It is our fault. We did it to ourselves.

The FB Champ design (metal end caps and ecore) they are moving over to the Fram products is almost a great filter IMO but they just need to finish it off by fixing or switching out that leaf spring from what others are saying on this forum. All those Champs and Supertechs usually look pretty good as far as quality.

 

[Zee09]

I do like E cores

 

[Chris142]

It's not that they can't. But paying workers in America a livable wage, they can't compete with China where they pay slave wages. Add in all the fees and environmental regulations and they can't compete on price.

They can produce good quality but then no one would buy the filters because they would be too expensive. It is our fault. We did it to ourselves.

The American made filters even though they cost more still can't compare to the imported ones. You are correct. No way would I pay $20+ for a filter even if made here

 

[DannyM]

I do like E cores

If they would get that leaf spring resolved then I would switch over to the Tough Guard permanently as it is so convenient to pick up anytime and is is right around $7 for my model which is just a great deal compared to the other extended filters with good media and silicone adbv but just not sure if FB can accomplish this LOL. Would be great to get one of the Fram managers on this forum to have a Convo or a Livestream Q&A LOL.

 

[Zee09]

If they would get that leaf spring resolved then I would switch over to the Tough Guard permanently as it is so convenient to pick up anytime and is is right around $7 for my model which is just a great deal compared to the other extended filters with good media and silicone adbv but just not sure if FB can accomplish this LOL. Would be great to get one of the Fram managers on this forum to have a Convo or a Livestream Q&A LOL.

Yeah I get it but I'm not a big TG fan.
If they fix that they'll screw up some other part.... you know how it goes.

I like my Ecogards and Mitsubishi oem for 7317 applications

 

[DannyM]

If they fix that they'll screw up some other part.... you know how it goes.

we let's see what some of the FB employees say about how they operate:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/First-Brands-Group,-LLC/reviews?fcountry=ALL

 

[Zee09]

we let's see what some of the FB employees say about how they operate:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/First-Brands-Group,-LLC/reviews?fcountry=ALL

Yeah First to Last Brands......
Soured by them ....... they had the greatest filter on the market and blew it ..... ( OG Ultra )

 

[ZeeOSix]

Would be great to get one of the Fram managers on this forum to have a Convo or a Livestream Q&A LOL.

Those days are over. Motoking was a good inside info source, but I highly doubt anyone from FB is going to let anyone represent them here on BITOG today.

 

[Dave Hess]

I do like E cores

Yep. So do I.

 

[Hootbro]

we let's see what some of the FB employees say about how they operate:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/First-Brands-Group,-LLC/reviews?fcountry=ALL

That is pretty bad. Probably one of the worst I have seen on Indeed.

 

[Glenda W.]

we let's see what some of the FB employees say about how they operate:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/First-Brands-Group,-LLC/reviews?fcountry=ALL

That explains a lot….