Opinions on this guys??? The UltraFilter!!!
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LarryL:
Curious..
Have you done any oil analysis on the engine your going to install the PP filter? If not, how will you know what the PP filter does in relation to your old spin-on?
Will you be running just the PP filter and block the spin-on from working..( he asks, as i've not read how they ask you to plum their filter and they may do it from the spin-on stud)..
Curious..
Have you done any oil analysis on the engine your going to install the PP filter? If not, how will you know what the PP filter does in relation to your old spin-on?
Will you be running just the PP filter and block the spin-on from working..( he asks, as i've not read how they ask you to plum their filter and they may do it from the spin-on stud)..
I took samples before I put the PP filter on. It is a direct replacement for the regular full flow filter. There is no plumbing to mess with, and that's what got me interested in a cleanable replacement filter. Since no one has done it and tested it, I though I'd try.
The first sample before the switch will go to Terry and I'll call him and talk about the little non-scientific test I'm doing.
The other sample is going to another lab. I'd like to see the difference in lab reports, if any.
The first sample before the switch will go to Terry and I'll call him and talk about the little non-scientific test I'm doing.
The other sample is going to another lab. I'd like to see the difference in lab reports, if any.
I can't believe he gave up his only excuse on the second post of the thread.
I'd like to thank the salesman for the amusement!
Sounds like it should filter the additives right out of the oil.
A micron is one millionth of a meter and a nanometer is one billionth of a meter. The size of molecules ranges from about 0.1 nanometer for simple molecules up to about 50 nanometers for complicated biological macromolecules such as proteins and enzymes. In comparison, a human hair is 150000 nm in diameter and represents the smallest feature an unaided human eye can see. I think beachracer meant 12-14 nanometers not microns.
It's still silly that he says the oil can flow through his filter that filters out under 5 microns bits but that oil is 12 microns in size and that oil doesn't flow through a paper filter but a paper filters holes expand when wet and allow bigger particles through with the oil. Somebody is definitely lacking some type of filter.
Guy's, tell me what you think about this stainless medium. Is it worth it? Do you think that it will really filter as much as they say? Do you have to spend your time every 5 to 7 thousand miles cleaning it or would it be better to just replace the older filter with a new one like we do now? It is an interesting idea but I cannot quite see why I would buy one if I have to clean it frequently.
I'm going to try to answer some of this stuff if you will give me time to drive around for a while. Until then, who knows. I'm going to ignore statements about the size of things and how filters work or by-pass valves or adbv's and all that stuff.
Yep, but I doubt this happens either. He changed that statement to the holes get larger from wear instead of expansion and then argues that oil doesn't pass through the filter element but that the holes get bigger and allow more dirt through the element. It's this type of illogical drival that made me comment on his lack of filtering(upstairs).
[ October 01, 2005, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: goodvibes ]
I guess that beachracer hit the "beach" so to speak.
After doing the math, and from the other points of view in this discussion, I'll stick with the disposable oil filters that I'm currently using. It would take so many to add up to the cost of this filter. CM filters are half the cost, but you will need to replace the element itself each time you change your oil, plus will need to replace the o-rings after a while.
It just doesn't reduce costs, or even stay the same, it runs more money, and probably the same filtration capability.
After doing the math, and from the other points of view in this discussion, I'll stick with the disposable oil filters that I'm currently using. It would take so many to add up to the cost of this filter. CM filters are half the cost, but you will need to replace the element itself each time you change your oil, plus will need to replace the o-rings after a while.
It just doesn't reduce costs, or even stay the same, it runs more money, and probably the same filtration capability.
This is from a company that is discussing a similar subject (Hydraulic oil in this case) and you can call them to get the proof that oils will flow was below 12 microns
Question 11:
Won't 0.1 micron filtration remove the additives from my oil?
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No. This is a myth that has been disproved by a leading oil company. The additives in the oil are in solution and cannot be removed with the Filtroil system. For results on these test results please call us at 1-800-638-3866.
Question 11:
Won't 0.1 micron filtration remove the additives from my oil?
Answer:
No. This is a myth that has been disproved by a leading oil company. The additives in the oil are in solution and cannot be removed with the Filtroil system. For results on these test results please call us at 1-800-638-3866.
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