Anyone using a Pure Power filter? Any uoa's using the filter. I think we need some numbers, not a shot from the hip, or marketing hype. I saw this filter in a race car at the Daytona Rolex, last year, and saw it torn down by the mechanic who had nothing but good things to say about it. At least he had his hands on it before commenting on it's performance. So, anyone out there using one?
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I'm not high, oil is 12 to 14 microns in size ! depending on the manufacturer .
Filter guy, you kick Pure Power !around in some of these forums, and I don't understand . So what is the size of oil ?
Filter guy, you kick Pure Power !around in some of these forums, and I don't understand . So what is the size of oil ?
Usually about a quart
Labman , what are you refering too ?
Of course their not fake, but your ref. to holes in the media, paper outer or the steel core ring.
Paper gets wet and loosens to make flow, the center ring of metal is to protect from sucking saturated paper in the system.
Guys you all talk about Racor , Oberg,and System 1, Pure Power ! is the next step.
Of course their not fake, but your ref. to holes in the media, paper outer or the steel core ring.
Paper gets wet and loosens to make flow, the center ring of metal is to protect from sucking saturated paper in the system.
Guys you all talk about Racor , Oberg,and System 1, Pure Power ! is the next step.
Thanks Larry L, every single motrosport out there has someone using Pure Power ! Oil or Filters, its not something new, 20 years in oils and 10 in filters.Pure Power! is what most of you would do with your racing passion too.
Can you show any information from oil companies that shows that oil is 12-14 microns in size?
Then you'll get more attention.
Until then your blowing smoke, simple as.
Any filter filters 1 micron particles.
Your idiotic ( until proof is supplied) statement would mean that filters, even Pure Power would remove the oil itself because the filter will filter smaller particles than 12-14 microns.
Last I know from years of extensive testing from Automotive engine companies and every filter manufacturer..so far the oil hasn't been removed.
But i'm willing to be proven wrong. I'll probably be waiting a loooong time though. Especially with filters elements being in the 90+% range at 10-20 microns.
Not to mention those who use by-pass filters which filter 5-10 micron particles in the 90% range.
In your example then that oil is 12-14 microns all filter elements would plug very shortly and go into by-pass. Then when a filter is cut open, the filter would have stopped the "oil" from getting through.
My other question to you is, if oil is 12-14 microns, what about the additive packages. What is the micron rating for them. Would the additive package be higher in microns than the oil itself if oil is the "base". So now you have the filters removing the additive packages out as well.
Which would mean every filter, regardless of type, is now taking out of the oil the additve package. That means every engine is sludging up with depleted oil and damaging the engine severely.
Let's just say we all await your next post...
[ September 22, 2005, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: Filter guy ]
LMAO!!
Let's get that info !
PP has not, nor have I stated that the filter captures 1-5 micron,it has however been tested
at SRL to get particles AS small as 5 and up to 25 in size.Using 35 micron mesh made from stainless steel, what filter element do you think will change it's structure, paper or SS.
So ,yes it would go through the by-pass or let dirty oil back into your motor through the paper as the holes get larger,I used to cut a lot of filters for metal deposits,and many had as much on the pleated paper outer and on the retainer ring inside the core,pressure on wet paper, pushes paper around ,and I've even put non-pass filters on, and blown them off the car, they could not handle the pressure at startup and could not release.
Coming from Champion you would know that the micron ratio of 1,5,10 is not after 100-1000 miles of pressure, paper opens up.
PP has not, nor have I stated that the filter captures 1-5 micron,it has however been tested
at SRL to get particles AS small as 5 and up to 25 in size.Using 35 micron mesh made from stainless steel, what filter element do you think will change it's structure, paper or SS.
So ,yes it would go through the by-pass or let dirty oil back into your motor through the paper as the holes get larger,I used to cut a lot of filters for metal deposits,and many had as much on the pleated paper outer and on the retainer ring inside the core,pressure on wet paper, pushes paper around ,and I've even put non-pass filters on, and blown them off the car, they could not handle the pressure at startup and could not release.
Coming from Champion you would know that the micron ratio of 1,5,10 is not after 100-1000 miles of pressure, paper opens up.
Any filter filters 1 micron particles
yeah but oil wont go through, let's be real ,I have a 10 micron stainless steel (thats absolute and feels like silk ) fuel filter and **** if I cant get oil to flow fast enough to feed the system, it even slows fuel down, cause fuel is 7-9 microns in size(pump vs.114 race)I put the 30 micron mesh element in and no problem with fuel flow,but some stuff gets through to the second filter.Paper could not capture this stuff after running a while, it would break down and be at the injectors,same with oil.
yeah but oil wont go through, let's be real ,I have a 10 micron stainless steel (thats absolute and feels like silk ) fuel filter and **** if I cant get oil to flow fast enough to feed the system, it even slows fuel down, cause fuel is 7-9 microns in size(pump vs.114 race)I put the 30 micron mesh element in and no problem with fuel flow,but some stuff gets through to the second filter.Paper could not capture this stuff after running a while, it would break down and be at the injectors,same with oil.
I turned my filter inside out and it filtered so well that no oil, and no contaminants got through either. Anyone want to buy it. It's lifetime yo
Why does this sound so out there to you guys ?
Get over Lifetime, Lifetime of the motor beacause nothing wears out , next! This filter saved so much dirt and metal for me ,and I beat my filters harder than most,and a paper filter never did what this can. Done with the old school.
Get over Lifetime, Lifetime of the motor beacause nothing wears out , next! This filter saved so much dirt and metal for me ,and I beat my filters harder than most,and a paper filter never did what this can. Done with the old school.
beachracer...
Still waiting for your proof that oil is 12-14 microns.
Not your attempt to "spin" your way out by talking about particle retentions.
But i will ask you this....what test equipment have you used to prove that "paper" filters do not retain any contaminant?
You are aware of efficiency testing, whereby filters are subject to contaminant being added to the fluid and run until plugged. Contaminant is added at regular timed intervals and flowed in a continuous cycle.
With your claims that the filters do not "filter" and go into by-pass..how do you explain the contaminant that the media traps in the test?
How do you explain filters with no by-pass doing this?
How do you explain Multi-pass testing where contaminant is counted by particle size from 1 micron to 40 and above going into a filter and a lower count of 1 to 40 micron coming out down stream?
If the filter didn't trap these particles did they magically disappear?
How do you explain a weight test where by elements are weighed new, saturated with oil, and after an element has been subject to a test. Why is it the element that is tested weights more than one just saturated with oil? Where did that additional weight come from if the element does not trap and retain particles?
Still waiting for your proof that oil is 12-14 microns.
Not your attempt to "spin" your way out by talking about particle retentions.
But i will ask you this....what test equipment have you used to prove that "paper" filters do not retain any contaminant?
You are aware of efficiency testing, whereby filters are subject to contaminant being added to the fluid and run until plugged. Contaminant is added at regular timed intervals and flowed in a continuous cycle.
With your claims that the filters do not "filter" and go into by-pass..how do you explain the contaminant that the media traps in the test?
How do you explain filters with no by-pass doing this?
How do you explain Multi-pass testing where contaminant is counted by particle size from 1 micron to 40 and above going into a filter and a lower count of 1 to 40 micron coming out down stream?
If the filter didn't trap these particles did they magically disappear?
How do you explain a weight test where by elements are weighed new, saturated with oil, and after an element has been subject to a test. Why is it the element that is tested weights more than one just saturated with oil? Where did that additional weight come from if the element does not trap and retain particles?
It's like watching a building imploding.
I don't think he's right Filter guy. I got out my 30x handheld magnifier and couldn't see individual oil particles, so oil must be a lot smaller than 12 microns
"12-14 micron" oil also wouldn't fit through the loaded side of an engine journal bearing.
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