There are otherwise intelligent (and dumb ones to) with a lack of knowledge in this subject that believe his kind of BS.
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Let's "try" and be a kinder and gentler forum. I know it's tough ..some of our current membership have weathered the "trial by flame" and could surely reason that howdst they were slid ..so shall they slide.
beachracer ..this is, by far, the toughest gauntlet to run in just about the entire site. The mouth can be a mine field ...so be careful where you step.
beachracer ..this is, by far, the toughest gauntlet to run in just about the entire site. The mouth can be a mine field ...so be careful where you step.
I agree this is a troll.
We all want to show everybody else how well we can do it. Seldom do we have such an easy target.
Where do you get the hemp fillllllllter?
Why would want to filter out the hemp?
I believe that beachracer has "gone racing."
I looked at the info on these three filters. The UltraFilter and TruFilter don't have a by-pass valve. What's with that. Is this a game of chicken? I thought a by-pass valve was a good idea for a full flow filter.
Is PurePower the only one that uses a duplex media?
Is PurePower the only one that uses a duplex media?
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the bypass valve, IMHO, is to protect the media from collapse. With these filters ..none should be needed for that reason. The only other side effect of no bypass is that there would be no limit to the upstream pressure and the possibility that you can reach the oil pump's pressure relief limit. If that occurs (and ONLY if that occurs) flow can be reduced.
Yes, paper could and sometimes does collapse from pressure surges. The Frams seem to be vulnerable which is one of the reasons they are not popular on this board. But not all paper media collapses from pressure surges that we tend to see in our cars oiling systems. YMMV.
The PP filter in conjunction with a separate bypass filter may be a viable option if you keep the vehicle for years. I ran 4 vehicles with no FF filter for years, with extended drains, when I had my business. I used a block off plate for the FF, and the block off plate for pressure to the bypass filter. Just a thought.
[ September 24, 2005, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]
[ September 24, 2005, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]
Like stated on another thread, I'm going to try a PP filter, with uoa's, particle counts and TBN (and a look by Terry, too), on my wife's car. She does almost a 100 miles/day, 4 days a week. I'm going to look at an UltraFilter, too. I think this will be better than all the feed back so far from people that have never used any of these filters and some statements in favor that have me confused. I'll post the results.
btw, what bp filter did you use?
btw, what bp filter did you use?
Larry, I used the Frantz Oil Filter. I would like to try the PP with a Frantz on a 15 quart sump diesel. I have enought UOA's on this engine to establish a fair trend. (No Particle counts though).
From my past experience on vehicles with no FF filter at all and extended changes with Mobil 1 and bypass filters, this would be interesting to me to see how it works.
The only problem is cost because I would need the large diesel 1 5/16" opening. This filter is about 8 or 9 inches long. No clearance problems. Just cost concern.
From my past experience on vehicles with no FF filter at all and extended changes with Mobil 1 and bypass filters, this would be interesting to me to see how it works.
The only problem is cost because I would need the large diesel 1 5/16" opening. This filter is about 8 or 9 inches long. No clearance problems. Just cost concern.
From what I've seen of the PP filter, it's a quality piece and I can see why it's expensive. I had a brief look at an UltraFilter and no explination is needed for the lower price. I'll know more next week when I start the test. And I'll post progress notes if anyone is interested. I only want to deal with what I can get my hands on and the lab results. I will also post pictures of any crud picked up by the filter.
And you're right. A PP filter will cost more than your adaptor.
And you're right. A PP filter will cost more than your adaptor.
When you get the data, would you start a new thread on it and keep us up to date with a progress report. I couldn't get the miles on a vehicle that you do for a test. Mine would be yearly.
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This is a big scam. I love the explanation of why an anti drain back valve is not used. What B.S.
Of the vehicles I own, 3 have the FF Vertical. So an anti-drain back valve is just something to get in the way of a normal operating FF filter. My other vehicle has the filter mounted Horizontal. In that it would be a concern as with others mounted in that position.
What I find interesting is that in our chem lab, I can pull oil through a 0.45 micron filter. Yes that is a zero point four five micron filter. The very first time I ever saw one of these filters advertised and they raised the point about oil not passing through a paper filter, I had a hard time with it. Liquids are not normally rated in micron sizes. They are molecular in size and tend to be smaller than that. Also, they are, by their very nature, "fluid", so they "bend" around the fibers in the filters. With all that being said, if oil were to large to go through the filter, why can I filter my oil in the lab? Even down to 0.45 micron!!!!
That is not to say I don't think these filters work, I just dont know. Some one needs to do some testing on these filters just like has been done on all the others. But until they stop trying to convince me my oil is NOT going through the media, I am not going to buy one.
Show me the testing.
That is not to say I don't think these filters work, I just dont know. Some one needs to do some testing on these filters just like has been done on all the others. But until they stop trying to convince me my oil is NOT going through the media, I am not going to buy one.
Show me the testing.
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