Opinion on selecting a $15k used Sedan
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Originally Posted By: Phishin
After a soapy wash with Simple Green, Collinite cleaner wax, and then Collinite Marque D' Elegance #915, the Accord was sparkling!!
I cleaned the engine bay and now I'm wondering what people use on the black plastic and rubber under the hood. What you guys recommend?
WOW! Nice ride...you made a great choice there. After owning a certified used car and having the dealer do $1000 in warranty work with a smile at 70,000 miles and 3 years later I am not sure I will ever buy a new car again.
After a soapy wash with Simple Green, Collinite cleaner wax, and then Collinite Marque D' Elegance #915, the Accord was sparkling!!
I cleaned the engine bay and now I'm wondering what people use on the black plastic and rubber under the hood. What you guys recommend?
WOW! Nice ride...you made a great choice there. After owning a certified used car and having the dealer do $1000 in warranty work with a smile at 70,000 miles and 3 years later I am not sure I will ever buy a new car again.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
I don't get it. The dealer sold you a vehicle without power washing the engine? This must be the first!!! How did they manage to hide all the traces of oil leaks from the engine without cleaning it first?
LOL!! This car previous owner had to live on a dirt road. Or, they it through a field on their way back to the dealer when their lease was up. Either way, she's all cleaned up now.
I don't get it. The dealer sold you a vehicle without power washing the engine? This must be the first!!! How did they manage to hide all the traces of oil leaks from the engine without cleaning it first?
LOL!! This car previous owner had to live on a dirt road. Or, they it through a field on their way back to the dealer when their lease was up. Either way, she's all cleaned up now.
I would recommend nothing on the underhood bits. Shiny stuff usually attracts dust and pollen, and you never know about the long-term effects on rubber, if they use petroleum distillates or silicones. I recommend just cleaning it and keeping it sprayed down. I spray the engine off every few times I wash the cars, and both engine bays look very clean still...clean, not greasy.
I think the recommendation for Meguiar's Hot Shine is based on its..."anti-ozonant technology [to] keep tires looking blacker longer, while preventing cracking, browning, and premature aging..."
It makes sense that if it works on tires, it'd work on other rubber components as well...
It makes sense that if it works on tires, it'd work on other rubber components as well...
Originally Posted By: KitaCam
I think the recommendation for Meguiar's Hot Shine is based on its..."anti-ozonant technology [to] keep tires looking blacker longer, while preventing cracking, browning, and premature aging..."
In my opinion, the marketing of those types of "Hot Shine" products goes behind what the product actually does. It's not at all unlike reading the back of an oil bottle. Every oil out there is "unsurpassed" in deposit control, in cleaning of sludge, and in engine protection.
I think the recommendation for Meguiar's Hot Shine is based on its..."anti-ozonant technology [to] keep tires looking blacker longer, while preventing cracking, browning, and premature aging..."
In my opinion, the marketing of those types of "Hot Shine" products goes behind what the product actually does. It's not at all unlike reading the back of an oil bottle. Every oil out there is "unsurpassed" in deposit control, in cleaning of sludge, and in engine protection.
Well, last night I put on a good coating of Gunk's Engine Shine. Sure did make everything looks real black and "wet". We'll see what it looks like in a week or two.
I can alway spray clean everything off with Simple Green and start over.
I can alway spray clean everything off with Simple Green and start over.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
+1
I was a private event last weekend where we had members from the Toyota Corporate product planning team present. It was established that 150k is considered to be the "design life" of a vehicle. This is something to keep in mind when purchasing a used car.
I've heard that from a few people. Makes sense to me - people will feel they got a "good life out of the car" andit will keep car companies in business. As I reminded my wife (who'se Escape just crossed over 130k) it just means they tested it to 150k. Not that at 150,001 miles it wil turn to dust. But it's at that point that you may face large repairs and things may start to break. It all depends on if you want to pump $$ into an old car.
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I was a private event last weekend where we had members from the Toyota Corporate product planning team present. It was established that 150k is considered to be the "design life" of a vehicle. This is something to keep in mind when purchasing a used car.
I've heard that from a few people. Makes sense to me - people will feel they got a "good life out of the car" andit will keep car companies in business. As I reminded my wife (who'se Escape just crossed over 130k) it just means they tested it to 150k. Not that at 150,001 miles it wil turn to dust. But it's at that point that you may face large repairs and things may start to break. It all depends on if you want to pump $$ into an old car.
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: The Critic
+1
I was a private event last weekend where we had members from the Toyota Corporate product planning team present. It was established that 150k is considered to be the "design life" of a vehicle. This is something to keep in mind when purchasing a used car.
I've heard that from a few people. Makes sense to me - people will feel they got a "good life out of the car" andit will keep car companies in business. As I reminded my wife (who'se Escape just crossed over 130k) it just means they tested it to 150k. Not that at 150,001 miles it wil turn to dust. But it's at that point that you may face large repairs and things may start to break. It all depends on if you want to pump $$ into an old car.
A friend of mine from engineering school designs seals used by Nissan Altima, Nissan Frontier/Altima, Jeep and a few others. He said he got to go to "proving" grounds testing for a Jeep model and said it was incredible hoot driving down the simulated 150k of service that included heavy offroad etc.
In my vehicle ownership it seems 8yrs/150k seems to be a point when more issues start cropping.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
+1
I was a private event last weekend where we had members from the Toyota Corporate product planning team present. It was established that 150k is considered to be the "design life" of a vehicle. This is something to keep in mind when purchasing a used car.
I've heard that from a few people. Makes sense to me - people will feel they got a "good life out of the car" andit will keep car companies in business. As I reminded my wife (who'se Escape just crossed over 130k) it just means they tested it to 150k. Not that at 150,001 miles it wil turn to dust. But it's at that point that you may face large repairs and things may start to break. It all depends on if you want to pump $$ into an old car.
A friend of mine from engineering school designs seals used by Nissan Altima, Nissan Frontier/Altima, Jeep and a few others. He said he got to go to "proving" grounds testing for a Jeep model and said it was incredible hoot driving down the simulated 150k of service that included heavy offroad etc.
In my vehicle ownership it seems 8yrs/150k seems to be a point when more issues start cropping.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
I agree that 200k is the new 100k...100k being the new 50k sweet spot for used cars.
That piston slapping and valve ticking must be the only thing(s) on the Accord needing his and our attention...That's great...wish him luck....
...at least as much as I had with buying Kitacamry @ 97k miles...owned by a teacher who only drove to school and back home...clean and relatively scratch-free, and no mechanical issues after 7k miles in my hands...yet...
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
I agree that 200k is the new 100k...100k being the new 50k sweet spot for used cars.
That piston slapping and valve ticking must be the only thing(s) on the Accord needing his and our attention...That's great...wish him luck....
...at least as much as I had with buying Kitacamry @ 97k miles...owned by a teacher who only drove to school and back home...clean and relatively scratch-free, and no mechanical issues after 7k miles in my hands...yet...
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
Piston slap is very common on the K24, and does not seem to affect longevity. And im not thinking its the valves since they have already been adjusted. Most newer cars have more issues then mine does.
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: supton
How is 100k+ "teetering on beater status"? 200k is the new 100k, you know.
If you buy it new, and take good care of it I would agree.
Buying a used car with 100k already on it is a totally different story. The average used car that is 8 or so years old with 100k is going to have a filthy interior, a few dents/scrapes/scratches, scratched bumper covers, yellowed headlights and curb rashed wheels.
I bought mine with 97,000 miles and it was...and still is in great shape. This guy must have not had kids and MUST have taken good care of it, headlights look good still, very few scratches, overall in great shape, and im keeping it up. You can find a couple used cars high mileage that still look great and run great. And my car was a northerner for 5 years.
You mean the piston slapping and valve ticking Accord? Sounds like a real gem.
Piston slap is very common on the K24, and does not seem to affect longevity. And im not thinking its the valves since they have already been adjusted. Most newer cars have more issues then mine does.
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