Opinion article- Landfill economy

We wear out microwaves. We use them constantly and they usually don't last 5 years. So when we bought a new microwave at Sears we took out their 5 year free replacement warranty. Right on schedule it failed, fortunately just short of 5 years. We contacted Sears, who sent over a repair guy to check it out. He called Sears and told them it wasn't working and he could easily repair it. Sears said "No, have them bring it in for a replacement".
I probably shouldn't complain about my microwave; it dates back to 1984 which was when my parents remodeled their kitchen. It's a GE made in Appliance Park, Louisville KY. Still works good, knock on wood!
 
I've never had a sole separate...I also don't buy junk shoes. $200 gets you a solid pair of running shoes or dress shoes, or something in between.

Mine are :(. Although to be fair they did last 2 years of abuse for a $20 pair at Marshalls. I walk fairly fast and so all my shoes end up like this.

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I probably shouldn't complain about my microwave; it dates back to 1984 which was when my parents remodeled their kitchen. It's a GE made in Appliance Park, Louisville KY. Still works good, knock on wood!
Our original Beaumont microwave lasted forever too. It was very large and we gave it to our daughter who was in university at the time. It got lost somewhere along the line. It's probably still running somewhere, heating and cooking for university students. The replacement, and the replacement for the replacement, and so on, were not so long lived.

This sounds a lot like the Prius story. The original model may have been the best.
 
Our original Beaumont microwave lasted forever too. It was very large and we gave it to our daughter who was in university at the time. It got lost somewhere along the line. It's probably still running somewhere, heating and cooking for university students. The replacement, and the replacement for the replacement, and so on, were not so long lived.

This sounds a lot like the Prius story. The original model may have been the best.
The original ones were probably a radio tower shrunk into the size of a moving box and the new one is a wifi router overpowered and under cooled.

Again, today more people think about style when remodeling kitchen than to improve durability or fix something broken. All mismatched appliances must go regardless of how well they were running.
 
Again, today more people think about style when remodeling kitchen than to improve durability or fix something broken. All mismatched appliances must go regardless of how well they were running.
We completely remodelled our kitchen, to a full on custom kitchen, about 8 years ago. We kept the old appliances. I was surprised that the cabinet people weren't surprised.

We had a fairly new Bosch dishwasher, an old Frigidaire kitchen range, an ancient Jenn-Air range hood and an old Maytag side by side refrigerator. The dishwasher and the refrigerator are still going strong. The range hood crapped out and parts were no longer available but (with the help of the "Bob" guys) it's going again. The kitchen range was recalled last year because of a dangerous part but wasn't working very well anyway so we replaced it with a Bosch induction range.

We designed the kitchen so the refrigerator has an attractive surround but by removing 4 screws the space opens up dramatically for a much larger unit. The new space is pre-planned for several much larger refrigerators but of course that won't stop the manufacturers changing the sizes and thwarting my plan when we eventually need a replacement.
 
I don't know the author but I'm an engineer, so I'll give my worthless 2 cents on the article's point:

1. Globalization's great gift wasn't low prices--it was the collapse of durability
I don't think that was ever promised, but the fundamental is that trade is a human nature before we have cold wars, and globalization is just a marketing term for better or worse. Is the goal low price? I don't think it always is, but the point is whenever there is an unbalance across different area, trade tends to balance the equation if both sides agree to a deal as long as it benefits them. Nobody would willingly agree to a money losing deal, both on our side or their side. Sometimes it solves a shortage problem, sometimes it solves a know how problem, and sometimes it is a better deal on one side than the other because we want to keep the other side away from trouble because they are too poor. It has nothing to do with durability because it is the consumers who decide what they want and how much to pay. I have bought a bunch of made in US stuff that's just as bad because the business is in poor condition run by private equity, and customers are short sighted and don't want to keep things for long anyways (fast fashion anyone? people throwing out old appliances and furniture because of fashion anyone?). The main reason for lower durability is because of inflation: we got poorer and want lower durability products and we will replace them as they go out of fashion before durability is the problem anyways. Want durability? buy more expensive stuff for commercial use, they tend to last way longer because people's income depends on it.

2. Globalization also accelerated another hyper-profitable gambit:
No, not everything is made of the same low quality components, only the fashionable one your fashionable wife wants. Many people don't want durability if they don't look fashionable, so businesses sell on fashion and not on durability (why do washers and driers come with various color and matching set?). Buy commercial grade stuff and they will last even if they are made in Vietnam or India, let alone China. They won't come cheap even if they are made oversea though, mind you.

3. A friend was showing us his 1957 Chevrolet Bel-Air.
People don't want the same thing from the past. Part of the durability is a compromise on fashion over quality and what is needed today (air conditioning, automatic transmission, 40mpg, 200hp, etc). You can keep selling that same car from the past and keep rebuilding it to last 1M miles, but most people would rather buy 4 base model Corolla instead, and get better mpg, air conditioning, etc. It won't be cool like a 1957 Bel Air but adjust for today's USD it is a better car and cheaper. That 1957 is not a higher quality car, not because it is made in US or not, but because it is just obsoleted, like a $3000 386 computer from 1992. The 1992 386 was durable though, but useless today.

4. Does anyone seriously believe that a chipset-software-dependent vehicle today will still be running 68 years from now?
If the demand is there yes you can build a replacement controller that's compatible for it. We have emulation that can run Playstation on PC, emulating old 6502 processor from 8 bit era in the 1980s on a $5 processor today, heck we still have some processor that is designed to be backward compatible to the old stuff 30 years ago because the demand is there and they are sold by the millions every year.

The problem is, nobody wants to keep a 30 year old car alive, and they are junked not because the ECU died. They are junked because transmission wears out, the body rust, the head gasket leaked, etc. People who happen to have a bad ECU can just pull another one from a junkyard (or pay a guy who pulled one from junkyard and sell it on eBay). Nobody is junking a car because an ECU broke. My car had an airbag computer broke and it is a 27 year old car, I can easily get one from ebay for $25 with a guarantee (because if it doesn't work the seller will pull another one off for me).

I can tell you what you cannot repair: a 1957 Bel Air will not have parts from a junkyard, because everyone got rid of them already. You have to custom build another part yourself if you want to keep fixing it today, costing you more than a 20 year old Corolla and is less durable. It is fine for a collectible but not for someone depending on it going to work on time every day.

Oh, BTW, I spend most of my work redesigning updates for old stuff to use new processors when those were obsoleted, basically updating the controller for new + existing functionality so they don't have to throw away old tools. I also have seen engineering lab of an R&D company building custom ECU for an engine they pull of a VW, Ford, GM, etc. There were no engine computer that would work for what they need so they just build one themselves. It is pretty easy if you buy the same parts and hire a couple software guys. There are companies licensing their framework and you just pay them to use it.

5. Our friend recounted a very typical story about repairing his recent-model pickup truck.
I don't know where you friend "borrow" that "diagnostic computer" from. Most cars can use a free phone app with a $5 OBD bluetooth connector to read code, and if you insist on buying a real tool, probably can use a $200 OBD scanner (and return it afterward if you insist). It is much easier to diagnose than a vacuum leak in an old car before computer era in terms of labor hours.

BTW many shops these days turn away old cars because they tend to be having problem one after another, and they can keep diagnosing them for free because customers blame them for everything after one ATF change or replace the spark plugs.





The biggest problem with durability is fashion and people not wanting to spend. There are good quality products if people want to pay for it but we are addicted to cheap and fashionable stuff instead of durability. When is the last time you see people buying a fridge because of a 15 year warranty and when is the last time you see some "must have refrigerator" because of a glass window? Things were more expensive back then so they were made better, and people tend to focus more on how long they last instead of how good it looks and throw away when things are out of fashion.
Well said.

Many people don't realize that if they Chevy was *allowed* to build a 1957 Bel Air today, it would cost a fraction of what it cost in 1957, and it would be of demonstrably superior quality in every way.

We can get a window into just how much complexity and regulation drive pricing and cost by considering the super cheap Toyota truck.


If, like me, you don't like the way a market is functioning, stop contributing to it. We have disposable crap because we buy disposable crap. Hold out for quality and you'll get quality.
 
Mine are :(. Although to be fair they did last 2 years of abuse for a $20 pair at Marshalls. I walk fairly fast and so all my shoes end up like this.

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I had a very expensive pair of leather oxfords (Florsheim Imperials, about $350 today) do exactly the same thing. They just tore open. They were eventually repaired by a very talented shoemaker. That was my 3rd or 4th (and final) pair of Florsheims.

I can still wear that pair for dressy occasions when it's raining or snowy. I have a similar pair for dry days.
 
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We have disposable crap because we buy disposable crap. Hold out for quality and you'll get quality.
When I buy something I try to buy the best quality, and most durable, considering price (which is often not the most expensive). Around home I try to fix things once. I keep my cars for about 20 years. It doesn't always work out but it does often enough that I keep going.

Cheap stuff isn't cheap.
 
Planned obsolescence is the way of the world, been saying it for years now. Only makes repeat buyers. Just like w medicine, a patient cured is money lost.
 
$350 per pair. Ugh. Glad I have 3 pair that at over 10 yrs old
I didn't pay $350 for them. That's what that particular pair (which they still sell) would cost today. I paid more like $250. I had a half dozen pairs of good shoes which I wore every day, so they could be rotated and thoroughly dried out between wears.

The advantage of good shoes is they can be resoled and re-healed many many times. I have a pair from 1980 or 1985. Bought in Exeter, England. The store owner said a good cobbler should be able to resole them at least 3 times. Not particularly expensive but very good quality.

I had a pair of "obstetrical shoes", another pair of Florsheim Imperials, designated for that purpose. Kept in the car and put on only and always before going into the case-room. You would put on booties but still those shoes had lots of nasty stuff spilled on them over the years. When I retired from General Practice I threw them out, which was a shame really as they could have been cleaned up, but ....
 
Just like w medicine, a patient cured is money lost.
Not so. It was said that a good physician could not put himself out of business. In fact there is one condition (pernicious anemia) where the patient's improvement is so dramatic that it used to be said finding even one patient would make your practice. The patient will suddenly and dramatically recover and tell everyone what a terrific doctor you are.

My new patient, who was literally as pale as a white candle, said "I know I'm not going to live very long but is there anything you can do to make my life a little easier?" My first question? "You aren't Scandinavian are you?" Well yes she was Swedish, which is one of the high risk groups for PA. Anyway she was so anemic I admitted her to hospital so she wouldn't die when I administered the treatment. With treatment the patient starts making blood so fast they can actually go into heart failure. And they're back in perfect health within a couple of weeks.
 
Planned obsolescence is the way of the world, been saying it for years now. Only makes repeat buyers. Just like w medicine, a patient cured is money lost.
This only works if the doctor has no competition, and the medicine has no competition, and the patients cannot sue you for malpractice.

Most illness have a standard protocol for doctors to follow or the insurance companies won't pay and patients can sue if they don't follow it. I think most doctors would rather not get sued than try to keep patients just sick enough but not healed.

Losing a license because you want to keep someone sick can be a big disincentive.
 
I probably shouldn't complain about my microwave; it dates back to 1984 which was when my parents remodeled their kitchen. It's a GE made in Appliance Park, Louisville KY. Still works good, knock on wood!
Mine is also made in USA, Tappan branded, from 1989. Complete with wood grain finish.
 
I've never seen a microwave fail, the ones I have discarded in the last 25-30 years have only been for aesthetic reasons.
 
"Opinion article" from Zero Hedge.

Last Gasp Of The Landfill Economy​


Article's premises is that we have been living with products that are disposable on purpose. Unrepairable, poor parts, cheap design. It is amazing how I understand many of the author's assessments. Most noteworthy that even items under warranty that fail, and they do, and often an extereme challange to get serviced, making warrantys somewhat without true value. I myself had a recent episode with a months old Samsung washer, with all reciepts, unable to register the product, thus unable to file a warranty repair. Chats, emails, phone calls, did not allow the system to work becuase of a serial number problem. When I was a kid, new washers didn't break, and if the new washer did break one could drive to the selling store, report the issue, and they would send a repair from their store out.

From the article:
Globalization's great gift wasn't low prices--it was the collapse of durability, transforming the global economy into a Landfill Economy of shoddy products made of low-cost components guaranteed to fail, poor quality control, planned obsolescence and accelerated product cycles--all hyper-profitable, all to the detriment of consumers and the planet.

Globalization also accelerated another hyper-profitable gambit: . Since all the products are now made with the same low-quality components, they all fail regardless of brand or price. The $2,000 refrigerator lasts no longer than the $700 fridge. Since the manufacturers and retailers all know the products are destined for the landfill by either design or default, warranties are uniformly one-year--and it's semi-miraculous if the consumer can find anyone to act on replacing or repairing the failed product even with the warranty.

A friend was showing us his 1957 Chevrolet Bel-Air. Unlike the stainless steal and low-quality chrome of today, the original parts are still untarnished. Since the entire vehicle is analog, parts can be scrounged or fabricated or swapped out with a similar set-up.

Does anyone seriously believe that a chipset-software-dependent vehicle today will still be running 68 years from now? Analog parts can be cast or welded; customized chipsets and firmware coding cannot. The original components will all be history.

Our friend recounted a very typical story about repairing his recent-model pickup truck. Since the engine was no longer responding to the accelerator, he borrowed a diagnostic computer (horribly expensive to maintain due to the extortionist monthly fee to keep the software upgraded) and came up with zip, zero, nada.

After swapping out the fuel pump at great expense and finding the problem persisted, he went online to YouTube University and found one video that explained the relay box from the accelerator to the engine didn't show up in the diagnostic codes, so the problem could not be identified.

The relay box cost $400, and likely consisted of components worth no more than a few dollars each. So after $1,000 in parts and his own labor, the problem was finally fixed. If this qualifies as "super-reliable and maintenance-free," then the diagnosis is obvious: mass delusion.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/last-gasp-landfill-economy?

I would not point to globalisation in itself as the cause, but rather the same mindset that caused globalisation is responsible for cheapening products, and/or building in obsolesence. Doesn't matter who makes it or where.

Part of the reason I bought the MG is that it's the easiest car to work on I've seen in the last 20 years...
 
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