Open End socket ? ( Strut Install )
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How far on does it thread on your struts?
Normally you can just use any standard socket, it does not have to be deep or anything in particular..
I recently put new KYB struts in a Saturn and no special tools are required save for a torx bit to hold the strut shaft from spinning.
Normally you can just use any standard socket, it does not have to be deep or anything in particular..
I recently put new KYB struts in a Saturn and no special tools are required save for a torx bit to hold the strut shaft from spinning.
I don't follow. Do you have an impact socket that fits? Why not get an appropriate drive socket wrench
I think you might be thinking of "crows foot" wrenches if you have a "nut around a nut" situation where you have to keep the inside part from turning with tool "A" while you torque tool "B".
I think you might be thinking of "crows foot" wrenches if you have a "nut around a nut" situation where you have to keep the inside part from turning with tool "A" while you torque tool "B".
Impact gun sockets are not open end / passthru
Shaft will just spin with braker bar .. I need to use ratchet with torx to hold it.
Its pretty deep ...
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
Shaft will just spin with braker bar .. I need to use ratchet with torx to hold it.
Its pretty deep ...
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
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Originally Posted By: Ndx
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
Hey those look cool! I might have to pick up whatever sizes I need for struts.
I've seen so-called "universal" Strut Nut Remover tools, that don't fit my vehicles. I usually have to improvise. Last time, I had to use a spark-plug socket with a 1/4'inch drive Allen socket inside it with an extension, then use a standard open-end wrench to turn the spark plug socket. Then of course, the new struts required a different size spark plug socket...
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
Hey those look cool! I might have to pick up whatever sizes I need for struts.
I've seen so-called "universal" Strut Nut Remover tools, that don't fit my vehicles. I usually have to improvise. Last time, I had to use a spark-plug socket with a 1/4'inch drive Allen socket inside it with an extension, then use a standard open-end wrench to turn the spark plug socket. Then of course, the new struts required a different size spark plug socket...
http://www.harborfreight.com/21-piece-saemetric-go-thru-socket-set-67974.html
pittsburg go through set for 27$ made in taiwan ( i think)
I cant imagine the craftman are any better or different COO.
I guess I dont understand the application. a pic would help.
you guys got it covered though.
pittsburg go through set for 27$ made in taiwan ( i think)
I cant imagine the craftman are any better or different COO.
I guess I dont understand the application. a pic would help.
you guys got it covered though.
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He must have some kind of recessed nut condition (ouch).
He needs to do something like this, but needs the deeper socket reach, I guess:
In pinch, I imagine a good vise grip clamped hard on a socket would work, if you don't mind marring your socket (Merkava, this might be too graphic for you!).
He needs to do something like this, but needs the deeper socket reach, I guess:
In pinch, I imagine a good vise grip clamped hard on a socket would work, if you don't mind marring your socket (Merkava, this might be too graphic for you!).
Originally Posted By: Ndx
Hi Guys,
Going to install some new shocks ... and been told by KYB to not use Impact Gun on top end nut on the shaft.
So I guess I need some open end sockets ... Who makes cheap ones ?
Are there open end torque wrenches ?
thx
I'd like to know what their reason is for not using an impact gun. I'd not let one sit and pound away, but until time to torque I don't see the harm. I almost bet if you take it to a shop impacts would be used.
Hi Guys,
Going to install some new shocks ... and been told by KYB to not use Impact Gun on top end nut on the shaft.
So I guess I need some open end sockets ... Who makes cheap ones ?
Are there open end torque wrenches ?
thx
I'd like to know what their reason is for not using an impact gun. I'd not let one sit and pound away, but until time to torque I don't see the harm. I almost bet if you take it to a shop impacts would be used.
Last time I changed struts, I fabricated my own tool. I welded a socket to a 1/4 inch x 1 inch steel bar for a handle. I drilled a hole through to pass the required hex bit. I made 2 of them with 17mm and 19mm sockets.
Do not use an impact to fully tighten the nut, but it is OK to use one to lightly thread it on. The reasoning behind the warning is to minimize the possibility of damage to the strut rod.
What I usually do is use the impact to lightly tighten the nut (while the assembly is still on the spring compressor), then reinstall the entire assembly into the vehicle and use a torque wrench to torque the nut to spec. Once the assembly is back on the car, the rod will not move much at all and you will be able to retorque the nut. This is actually the method Toyota recommends.
What I usually do is use the impact to lightly tighten the nut (while the assembly is still on the spring compressor), then reinstall the entire assembly into the vehicle and use a torque wrench to torque the nut to spec. Once the assembly is back on the car, the rod will not move much at all and you will be able to retorque the nut. This is actually the method Toyota recommends.
Originally Posted By: Ndx
Are there open end torque wrenches ?
You can use a standard torque wrench with a crows foot. Here's a link that describes how to figure out the torque value to set while using a crowsfoot attachment that's positioned with the open end in-line with the handle.
http://www.engineersedge.com/manufacturing_spec/torque_wrench_1.htm
Example - Find Y if T needs to be 46 lb-ft:
T = desired torque = 46 lb-ft
Y = torque wrench setting
L = effective handle length = 14.5";
E = effective crows foot length = 1.2" (for 13/15" crowsfoot)
Y = (T x L)/(L + E) = (46 x 14.5)/(14.5 + 1.2) = 42.5 or 43 lb-ft.
So your torque wrench should be set to 43 lb-ft with the crows foot oriented so the open end is in-line with the handle axis.
Are there open end torque wrenches ?
You can use a standard torque wrench with a crows foot. Here's a link that describes how to figure out the torque value to set while using a crowsfoot attachment that's positioned with the open end in-line with the handle.
http://www.engineersedge.com/manufacturing_spec/torque_wrench_1.htm
Example - Find Y if T needs to be 46 lb-ft:
T = desired torque = 46 lb-ft
Y = torque wrench setting
L = effective handle length = 14.5";
E = effective crows foot length = 1.2" (for 13/15" crowsfoot)
Y = (T x L)/(L + E) = (46 x 14.5)/(14.5 + 1.2) = 42.5 or 43 lb-ft.
So your torque wrench should be set to 43 lb-ft with the crows foot oriented so the open end is in-line with the handle axis.
Everything I've read discourages impact use on shocks and struts when you're installing. Removal is no big deal.
Originally Posted By: Ndx
Impact gun sockets are not open end / passthru
Shaft will just spin with braker bar .. I need to use ratchet with torx to hold it.
Its pretty deep ...
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
why not just use a torx to hold and a regular wrench to remove the nut?
Impact gun sockets are not open end / passthru
Shaft will just spin with braker bar .. I need to use ratchet with torx to hold it.
Its pretty deep ...
Here is open end socket or as you call it passtru.
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/craftsman_passthru.jpg
why not just use a torx to hold and a regular wrench to remove the nut?
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