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Crutchfield sells some reasonably priced kits that would be a good fit if that's the case. They'll even provide you with the wiring adapter.
Onkyo and Denon
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Crutchfield sells some reasonably priced kits that would be a good fit if that's the case. They'll even provide you with the wiring adapter.
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Goals, OVERKILL. Goals.
Those cost more than every car I've ever had, combined, by a lot.Goals, OVERKILL. Goals.
I'm still drooling.
VU meters are nice to look at, even though some consider them Virtually Useless meters.
Foobar2000 has a bunch of VU meter skins available - I cycle through them sometimes... Teac, Sony, Denon, Technics, McIntosh, etc.
Yes compared to the "Prestige Edition" which are $3000 a more a pair... lol
Everytime I see the Subject "Onkyo and Denon", I'm thinking of Yoko and Lennon. ;-)
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LOL! Yeah, the 800 D3 is $30K, and then, there's Nautilus...
https://www.bowerswilkins.com/home-audio/nautilus
$60K.
How's your credit?
I have many friends who back in the day bought their equipment from RadioShack(Realistic) or JCPENNY(MCS Series) when both stores carried some pretty good stuff. For both home & car. And I have to admit that their equipment matched my more expensive stuff in many areas of listening pleasure. It all looked good too! I mean, the equipment was out sourced /made by a major audio company(Panisonic/Technique, Sanyo etc.) or others.
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This is almost turning into a modern vs vintage audio discussion.
I agree with other posts here about how people cared about audio more in the past than they do now. Hell, look at what some of that vintage audio cost new. Not exactly chump change. People were willing to pay for the best. Because of that high demand, competition was up, and there were higher quality offerings back then as far as build quality and aesthetics. This is certainly one subject where "they don't make 'em like they used to" applies.
All of my setups are powered by vintage equipment. I listen to them nearly every day. The look, touch, feel, reliability, and sound are unmatched by all but the highest end (and very very expensive) audio today. I'd rather play with a beautiful sounding sub-$300 vintage silver face than a $2,000 black plastic modern unit.
I agree with other posts here about how people cared about audio more in the past than they do now. Hell, look at what some of that vintage audio cost new. Not exactly chump change. People were willing to pay for the best. Because of that high demand, competition was up, and there were higher quality offerings back then as far as build quality and aesthetics. This is certainly one subject where "they don't make 'em like they used to" applies.
All of my setups are powered by vintage equipment. I listen to them nearly every day. The look, touch, feel, reliability, and sound are unmatched by all but the highest end (and very very expensive) audio today. I'd rather play with a beautiful sounding sub-$300 vintage silver face than a $2,000 black plastic modern unit.
This thread has some great replies and yes, I was getting at modern vs vintage. We have some other aspects peppered in, but this thread is great.
I absolutely love your units. Your Technics receiver looks a LOT like our Philips. Big giant tuning knob... channel A B ...yes.
Does the giant tuning needle section light orange backlit when turned on?
That sounds like a nice system. The Kent's would have enjoyed the Apt Holman Amp 1, I was using that amp with a pair of KEF Corelli I had modified. I always thought the KEF 101 were great location/van remote monitors, moreso than the LS3/5a Rogers.
The dealer near me that sold KEF in the 70's and 80's employed, successfully, a Swedish AudioPro B2-50 subwoofer with the KEF reference 101
they had small, long throw drivers so thy blended well with Small Monitors,
I am not a sub woofer guy. so I didnt go there.
Need bass? get better current drive out of your amp.
I bought my KEFs at a stereo show. [They had stereo shows back in the '80s.] What impressed me about them was their clean sound and that they were being driven very nicely at the show at quite a high volume with a 200 or 250 Watt amp. The KEFs handle all that power quite handily and just sound better. There were a number of LS3/5a speakers at the time but I liked the KEFs.
For any of you who don't know this, more power gives you cleaner sound. The theory is that with an infinite amount of power, any wave form can be reproduced exactly. So all else being equal (and it seldom is) a 200 Watt amp will give a truer reproduction of the actual sound than a 50 Watt amp.
I'm still using the KEFs as my TV speakers, left, right and "center" channel. I don't really have a center channel of course, the left and right speakers image it. A friend traded me a Yamaha AV Receiver which I now use in 2 channel form to power the TV KEFs. The Yamaha has a sub output as well so the TV system is just crying out for a sub.
Uncle Dave, I think I have those same B&W's or maybe mine might be the little brother not sure. I have had them for at least 20 years, they sound really good. The only speaker I've had longer than these B&W are my Dynaco A10's
My 15 year old daughter has my NAD AMP a pair of Klisph speakers with a Bluetooth adapter in her room. She pulled my college setup from attic. The CD player and cassette deck are still up there collecting dust.
In the mid '70s I spent ~$1000 w/tax and after my best negotiation and all I bought were:
Yamaha 50 watt/4 chan stereo receiver
Dual belt drive/straight arm turntable
Pair of Cizek loud speakers
Phillips cassette deck w/Dolby ...WOOOO!
Through the '80s I upgraded much of my equipment to better stuff and added even more speakers & EQ, CD etc.
Yamaha 50 watt/4 chan stereo receiver
Dual belt drive/straight arm turntable
Pair of Cizek loud speakers
Phillips cassette deck w/Dolby ...WOOOO!
Through the '80s I upgraded much of my equipment to better stuff and added even more speakers & EQ, CD etc.
Char,
Those Cizek were better than AR back in the 70's. The ubiquitous Peerless silk dome was a bit over-stressed due to the design flaw of not having looped the voice coil wires wires whee they exited on the fornt plate, but before they travelled in the termination channels. Withc the low crossover point, you often popped the tweeter multiple times during ownership.
I met Roy Cizek at an electronics store in Lawrence Called MILO-ALCO, they also sold mid-hifi equipment like b&o, Yamaha, Kenwood, ADS, AR, ALTEC and CIZEK. My good friend still has a few pair of mint Model 1 and 2. I also lived just a few miles from the ADS factory in Wilmington. Grew up the True Boston area "rabid" audiophile. One of the passions before the distraction of VHS, TV, Home theatre then Smartphones.
Later in the 90's, I sold a friend - with too much money - a super high end system consisting of a pair of Krell MDA300 amps, a pair of Apogee Diva ribbon loudspeakers and a Wadia DC player.
I think that system went for over 25 grand. The amps (600W at 4ohms, 1200W at 2ohms) weighed 100 pounds each and he had to re-wire his room to power these.
The Diva had Marble bodies and went floor to ceiling. They were almost 200 LBS Each. and 3 ohms nominal
I didnt like the sound of that combo, but he did so ...
A similar setup with different amps:
Those Cizek were better than AR back in the 70's. The ubiquitous Peerless silk dome was a bit over-stressed due to the design flaw of not having looped the voice coil wires wires whee they exited on the fornt plate, but before they travelled in the termination channels. Withc the low crossover point, you often popped the tweeter multiple times during ownership.
I met Roy Cizek at an electronics store in Lawrence Called MILO-ALCO, they also sold mid-hifi equipment like b&o, Yamaha, Kenwood, ADS, AR, ALTEC and CIZEK. My good friend still has a few pair of mint Model 1 and 2. I also lived just a few miles from the ADS factory in Wilmington. Grew up the True Boston area "rabid" audiophile. One of the passions before the distraction of VHS, TV, Home theatre then Smartphones.
Later in the 90's, I sold a friend - with too much money - a super high end system consisting of a pair of Krell MDA300 amps, a pair of Apogee Diva ribbon loudspeakers and a Wadia DC player.
I think that system went for over 25 grand. The amps (600W at 4ohms, 1200W at 2ohms) weighed 100 pounds each and he had to re-wire his room to power these.
The Diva had Marble bodies and went floor to ceiling. They were almost 200 LBS Each. and 3 ohms nominal
I didnt like the sound of that combo, but he did so ...
A similar setup with different amps:
Those ribbon speakers sound so good with the right music, but the sweet spot is sooo small. I spend way to much on audio, not quite audiophile level but enough. I have speakers that are 85lbs each, most of that is because they are furniture grade wood. They sound awesome but are a pain in the backside to move.
In fact thinking about it I just researched and found out the speakers in my den are 112lbs each. Somehow they seem easier to move.
In fact thinking about it I just researched and found out the speakers in my den are 112lbs each. Somehow they seem easier to move.
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