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Originally Posted By: Clevy
You really aren't contributing to any intelligent exchange here.
On the contrary, I think he's brought forth some compelling points. You don't have to agree with them, but they are certainly valid. I've echo'd a few of them.
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Big Cahuna has expressed his point of view to which you have jumped all over him and chastised him for.
His point of view appears to be that he has the right to be as obnoxiously loud as possible because he wants to be. That's like me arguing that I can mount the fog horn off the Queen-friggin'-Mary on my car and drive around blowing the windows out of people's cars and making their ear drums bleed because I feel like it. It doesn't work that way.
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I for one can say my v&h 2 into 1 pro pipe is loud when I get into it but if I'm easy on the throttle its sedate,and I can truly say almost daily a rev of my engine has stopped someone from pushing me over onto the sidewalk,so yes,my pipes have absolutely brought attention when it was required to avoid potential accident but my wits have saved me more.
You have an exhaust system, not straight pipes. You must have missed the part where both myself and Milk spoke about tasteful exhaust systems as opposed to straight-pipes.
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I don't think its up to you,or anyone to tell me what to do. What to wear,what pipes I should or shouldn't have and its not the people with the loud pipes ruining the hobby,its the crybaby whiners who are ruining it.
If you wake my kids at 4:00AM with a straight-piped bike 20ft from my house I have every bloody right to complain and it doesn't make me a "crybaby", it makes you an inconsiderate [censored]. This is the type of behaviour that Milk, myself and others are opposed to, but others here appear to condone, why is that? Nobody is saying "don't run a V&H or *insert other brand of aftermarket exhaust* on your bike, keep it 100% stock", we are saying that straight pipes at 125+dB are unreasonably loud and that using them as some sort of "safety crutch" is a farce, since you've demonstrated that the same thing can be accomplished by running an actual exhaust system that is, as you yourself noted, reasonably civil unless you are hard on the throttle. I'm not seeing the reason for the disconnect here
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As proven by a member or 2 in this thread. I'm happy to be in sask where I can put whatever pipes I want to on,and I only have to read the posts from the whiners,because those whiners aren't sayin much when I'm standing there,only when I leave and the whiners are sure I can't hear them complain.
Not sure what to say to this Clevy. I don't think you really get what we are complaining about and think we are attacking your right to mod your bike. We aren't. There's a point where tasteful expression ends and being an obnoxious [censored] begins. Going from having an exhaust system that sounds good when you wind it out to straight pipes that bark so loud they cause hearing damage is crossing that line. Do you follow what I'm saying?
You really aren't contributing to any intelligent exchange here.
On the contrary, I think he's brought forth some compelling points. You don't have to agree with them, but they are certainly valid. I've echo'd a few of them.
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Big Cahuna has expressed his point of view to which you have jumped all over him and chastised him for.
His point of view appears to be that he has the right to be as obnoxiously loud as possible because he wants to be. That's like me arguing that I can mount the fog horn off the Queen-friggin'-Mary on my car and drive around blowing the windows out of people's cars and making their ear drums bleed because I feel like it. It doesn't work that way.
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I for one can say my v&h 2 into 1 pro pipe is loud when I get into it but if I'm easy on the throttle its sedate,and I can truly say almost daily a rev of my engine has stopped someone from pushing me over onto the sidewalk,so yes,my pipes have absolutely brought attention when it was required to avoid potential accident but my wits have saved me more.
You have an exhaust system, not straight pipes. You must have missed the part where both myself and Milk spoke about tasteful exhaust systems as opposed to straight-pipes.
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I don't think its up to you,or anyone to tell me what to do. What to wear,what pipes I should or shouldn't have and its not the people with the loud pipes ruining the hobby,its the crybaby whiners who are ruining it.
If you wake my kids at 4:00AM with a straight-piped bike 20ft from my house I have every bloody right to complain and it doesn't make me a "crybaby", it makes you an inconsiderate [censored]. This is the type of behaviour that Milk, myself and others are opposed to, but others here appear to condone, why is that? Nobody is saying "don't run a V&H or *insert other brand of aftermarket exhaust* on your bike, keep it 100% stock", we are saying that straight pipes at 125+dB are unreasonably loud and that using them as some sort of "safety crutch" is a farce, since you've demonstrated that the same thing can be accomplished by running an actual exhaust system that is, as you yourself noted, reasonably civil unless you are hard on the throttle. I'm not seeing the reason for the disconnect here
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As proven by a member or 2 in this thread. I'm happy to be in sask where I can put whatever pipes I want to on,and I only have to read the posts from the whiners,because those whiners aren't sayin much when I'm standing there,only when I leave and the whiners are sure I can't hear them complain.
Not sure what to say to this Clevy. I don't think you really get what we are complaining about and think we are attacking your right to mod your bike. We aren't. There's a point where tasteful expression ends and being an obnoxious [censored] begins. Going from having an exhaust system that sounds good when you wind it out to straight pipes that bark so loud they cause hearing damage is crossing that line. Do you follow what I'm saying?