? on purolator cartridge oil filters

[whitearrow]

good eveing fellas.i have a 2010 toyota tundra with the 5.7 liter V8.for some reason toyota engineers figured that they would use a cartridge oil filter in this engine.i was just wondering how the purolator cartridge for this particular engine compares to the toyota,i think denso makes it,cartridge oil filter.
thanks,
whitearrow->>>------------->

 

[BeanCounter]

The standard Purolator cartridge filter for my vehicle has appeared to be nothing but average to sub-par, to be honest. I wasn't impressed at all, to my dismay, as it is made in the U.S.

I can't speak for yours specifically, but if there is any correlation, go get a WIX or see how a PureOne looks instead.

 

[Oregoonian]

Do they have a PureOne in a cartridge ?

If so, go for it...PureOnes are excellent filters....

 

[whitearrow]

i don't believe that a pure-one is available for my app.i wish it was though.

 

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted By: whitearrow
i don't believe that a pure-one is available for my app.i wish it was though.


From my experience, I would opt with a WIX until you can verify the quality of any other brand. I have done a fairly decent compilation of oil filter brands for my Solstice model on another forum and I learned quite a bit from it.

So just trying to help you protect as best as possible!

 

[Nick R]

FRAM cartridge filters are excellent- they are made by someone else. For some reason, purolator cartridge filers are not all that great, while FRAM ones are exceedingly solid.

 

[labman]

I picked up a NAPA Gold (Wix) 7082, PF457 app. Very nicely made filter, plenty of peats. too crowded in to leave gaps. Except for being made in South Korea, a great filter.

It seems we have 3 choices foreign made, made in America by foreign companies, or pay an extra buck for the ST. It is made in America and distributed by Champ, but perhaps made by a foreign company. Why can I go to AAP and buy an American made L15436 or PF 457 for a buck less than an ST 9018?

We can debate the wisdom of buy American. Make no mistake however, if you are going to buy American, where the company is based is important. Salaried employees count too. We need executive, administrative, technical, etc. jobs just as much as production.

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: labman
I picked up a NAPA Gold (Wix) 7082, PF457 app. Very nicely made filter, plenty of peats. too crowded in to leave gaps. Except for being made in South Korea, a great filter.

It seems we have 3 choices foreign made, made in America by foreign companies, or pay an extra buck for the ST. It is made in America and distributed by Champ, but perhaps made by a foreign company. Why can I go to AAP and buy an American made L15436 or PF 457 for a buck less than an ST 9018?

We can debate the wisdom of buy American. Make no mistake however, if you are going to buy American, where the company is based is important. Salaried employees count too. We need executive, administrative, technical, etc. jobs just as much as production.


Noone on this site can say that I am not a "buy American" guy, but I have no problem buying filters made by "Bosch". Purolator is still a US based division that is entirely seperate from it's Bosch parent company. And it isn't a car- a car is tens of thousands of dollars, a filter is $5. At this price level, if it is made in USA/Canada/Mexico, I am happy.

 

[BeanCounter]

I wish the WIX weren't made in South Korea either, but their headquarters is here in my state. If I conveniently come across a filter I deem to be of the same quality or higher, made in the USA, I may very well give it a try at some point as well. Either way, WIX does design and sell a quality part here in the US. I just hope one day they can fix the "Made in" part!

 

[labman]

I have been mad for the last 10 years ever since the first time I changed the oil on my 02 Cavalier and Mr Goodwrench hosed me for $8 for a French made filter and added insult by suggesting I shouldn't be doing highly technical stuff like changing the oil. Why do those things with no can, baseplate, bypass, or ADBV cost twice as much? Why can Purolator and Hengst manufacturer them in America for less than Wix can import them from South Korea?

 

[Gary Allan]

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Why can Purolator and Hengst manufacturer them in America for less than Wix can import them from South Korea?


Why did my bottled water come from up in Patman's area in Canada? The cost of transporting the stuff (just water) would make you totally think it doesn't make sense. It doesn't unless you look at it from some book balancing act. Westernized nations trade money around where it's needed. It's all negotiated. Let me restate that. It can't happen without approval. Otherwise there would be no shortage of cheap American filters in Canada ..and no shortage of XD-3 synthetic lubes in the US. You protect some assets ..sacrifice others. While we have some notion of "free trade", it's only used in regard to 3rd world or "developing nations". The western aligned nations manage all of it based on needs/goals for other things.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: labman
I have been mad for the last 10 years ever since the first time I changed the oil on my 02 Cavalier and Mr Goodwrench hosed me for $8 for a French made filter and added insult by suggesting I shouldn't be doing highly technical stuff like changing the oil. Why do those things with no can, baseplate, bypass, or ADBV cost twice as much? Why can Purolator and Hengst manufacturer them in America for less than Wix can import them from South Korea?


That cartridge filter is still a supreme rip off. It's still about $8 for even a supertech at Walmart. It is plastic end caps and center tude, with no bypass, ADBV or metal canister. A $2 filter at most. And the clincher, it is made in Bulgaria.

The old GM 2.5 tech 4 or iron duke ACDelco filter had a cartridge filter all metal construction just like a classic, made in the USA for usually slightly less than a canister filter. Whatever happened to doing things like that, the sensible way?

 

[Gary Allan]

The costs differences are all based on volume and proprietary configurations. The spin-on filter with standardized threads reduced a bunch of part numbers to the same base plate ..same end cap ..same bypass valve ..same diameter center tube ..same diameter can ..with only variations in length (multiply that for each respective can size and filter thread ..etc...etc). You merely reset your equipment.

How many engines share the cartridge filters across all manufactures? How many are unique to the engine family? How many are in the field compared to the spin-on filters?

Bulgaria = more of that foreign aid that the nation earns. It's fire insurance. Imagine the savings in avoided costs if we had just thrown in an auto plant in the Balkins. NATO would have never shot a round ...no refugees ..etc..etc.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
The costs differences are all based on volume and proprietary configurations. The spin-on filter with standardized threads reduced a bunch of part numbers to the same base plate ..same end cap ..same bypass valve ..same diameter center tube ..same diameter can ..with only variations in length (multiply that for each respective can size and filter thread ..etc...etc). You merely reset your equipment.

How many engines share the cartridge filters across all manufactures? How many are unique to the engine family? How many are in the field compared to the spin-on filters?


That ecotech filter may not be the most common filter but it is way more common than the old Tech 4 filter and probably some other filters. The price never came down on the ecotech filter. I don't think the price is justified. It's not much more than a stripped down ecore. You can get high quality OE filters for less.

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Bulgaria = more of that foreign aid that the nation earns. It's fire insurance. Imagine the savings in avoided costs if we had just thrown in an auto plant in the Balkins. NATO would have never shot a round ...no refugees ..etc..etc.


I don't know about all that. I look at it just the opposite. Throwing investments all around the world if anything will draw us more into conflict. One reason for the US involvement in the balkans is because a former secretary of state had heritage from the area and wantd to settle old scores. Kind of sounds like Iraq but let's not get political even though anymore products and consumer choices
are all political.

 

[ProfPS]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx


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Bulgaria = more of that foreign aid that the nation earns. It's fire insurance. Imagine the savings in avoided costs if we had just thrown in an auto plant in the Balkins. NATO would have never shot a round ...no refugees ..etc..etc.


I don't know about all that. I look at it just the opposite. Throwing investments all around the world if anything will draw us more into conflict. One reason for the US involvement in the balkans is because a former secretary of state had heritage from the area and wantd to settle old scores. Kind of sounds like Iraq but let's not get political even though anymore products and consumer choices
are all political.


All I have to say after serving in both Balkan operations, outside the wire everyday, face-to-face with the population in the thick of it and making decisions on their lives and their future - watch Discovery Channel's "Death of a Nation."

Back to Purolator cartridge filters... there are two types that you will find in the Classic packaging - ones made in India that are left overs from the Premium packaging, and ones made in the US which are the newer style with a different filter medium. The older filter medium look similar to Mann filters that probably has different characteristics than the Purolator filters tested two months ago. The newer filter medium looks much better. I'll let you if I notice a difference after my next OC which will be due in a couple weeks.

 

[SilverC6]

The factory cartridge filter for my new Camry is exactly the same filter that Fram sells for the application.

The Fram is $12.99 at Advance Auto while the factory filter is $5 from my Toyota dealer.

Go figure.....