Oil for a new Ferrari F430?
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On the Q Power site it says the new factory fill for Ferrari is Quaker State.
Why don´t you try Motul 300V 0w20?
I'd can the 20w idea. One burp in the warranty period and you will be disapointed in the service bill. I would go back to the idea of having RLI brew you up some oil, maybe start were RI_R4S left off with the Super-secret 5w-40. That formula can be taken up or down in viscoisty and you can, with the help of Dyson analysis get it to suit your needs. For a car like this I would hire Terry Dyson for a bit more work than the Prem Analysis. It would be a fun project and there would be a lot to learn. By the way, where are the pictures?
Hate to say it, but most of these high dollar exotics are kept until the owners acquire about 10-15k miles, then they are sold for something newer and flashier or when boredom sets in. By then the car is someone else's problem if something goes wrong down the line. Run whatever you like, heck run some of Gary's 0w-10 custom brew. Let's really push the boundaries.
Well, it isn't. Shell owns Quaker State, remember? All they are doing is putting Q labels on the two grades of Helix Ultra that Ferrari uses as factory fill. If you get Q in 5w40 or 10w60 it's relabeled Helix Ultra. And for the US Ferrari dealers I'm sure Shell has worked it out so that the Helix they supply them is labeled as Q, otherwise they couldn't get away with marketing Q as "Ferrari approved."
Use what the factory tells you to use. Unless you have enough $$$ to spend to replace engine parts. IF you do, then use whatever you want.
That is what I told him in a PM. There is absolutley no reason to use anything else...
NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE ON THIS SITE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE ENGINE IN THIS FERRARI THEN FERRARI THEMSELVES!!!!!!
Shell Helix has to be some great stuff. I might start grabbing QS Euro stuff myself (but definitely not for a Ferrari sadly) IMO...
Factory recommended oil. Even though the engineers who designed the engine are total idiots for not using 0w/20 oil.Really the Ferrari engineers are really dumb and total morons and have no clue ..
Just reinforces my opinion the Ferrari engineers don't know anything. I would use what the internet experts suggest over the Stupid ignorant ,have no clue Ferrari engineers. How could you buy a car designed by those buffoons. They have no clue.
if your going with a 20 weight, i'd recomend Redline.
If your 430 recomends a 40 weight, and you want to use something thinner, then i'd do ATLEAST German Castrol 0w30, which is on the thicker side of the 30 weights..if you can run it on SL oil.
If your 430 recomends a 40 weight, and you want to use something thinner, then i'd do ATLEAST German Castrol 0w30, which is on the thicker side of the 30 weights..if you can run it on SL oil.
This is strange to me... I could never think like this...straying from Ferrari's recommendations...makes me think the kinda people that stray from recommendations are some of the ones who can afford a Ferrari...Although this is one time one should not disregard Ferrari specs...The founder of Lamborhghini built tractors before building supercars...Enzo himself seemed illogical destroying race cars after races...they would be classics today but he wanted a clean sheet...And yes I know Lambo and Ferrari are two different companies I was only rambling and thinking...
Where's Clyde65 to shill his 5w30 Valvoline MaxLife when we need him?
I don't know about Clyde65, but I am thinking of putting Valvoline Maxlife Synthetic 5W-30 in my Ferrari at the next oil change. Have Mobil 1 0W-40 right now. BUT--my car is 20 years old, and the old oil specs (10W-50) are obsolete. No way I'd use anything but dealer-endorsed oil in a Ferrari under warranty. Why not talk to the dealer and see what he says?
Maybe aehaas can weigh in here. I am under the impression that he has/had the tacit approval of his Ferrari dealer to run thinner than factory specified oils in his cars.
Maybe aehaas can weigh in here. I am under the impression that he has/had the tacit approval of his Ferrari dealer to run thinner than factory specified oils in his cars.
I am studying the 430 and should have some specific information next week.
aehaas
aehaas
Incidentally, my discussions about oil are not with the dealership people but rather the head technical people at Ferrari North America, FNA. They have distributed my oil chapters to others in the organization.
Here is one reason I am comfortable with GC 0W30 in my Enzo, from an earlier post:
This is my neighbor’s 2003 Ferrari Enzo with a total of 8,800 miles. He had the oil changed by the Ferrari dealer using the required 10W-60 Shell Helix Ultra Racing oil.
This oil has 1,400 miles on it and it is still in use. The recommended interval is 5,000 miles, less if on the track. This is strictly off track use in town and on the highway, probably 50-50.
I will put this up again with my Enzo’s oil after I accumulate the same mileage on the 0W-30 GC I am currently running.
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Iron___________ 32
Chromium _____ Nickel ________ 2
Aluminum ______11
lead __________ 16
Copper ________25
Tin ___________ Silver ________ Titanium ______ Silicon ________ 7
Boron ________ 1
Sodium _______ 8
Potassium ____ Molybdenum __ Phosphorus __1026
Zinc ________ 1135
Calcium _____ 1454
Barium ______ Magnesium ___1219
Antimony _____ Vanadium _____ Fuel %Vol _____ Abs Oxid ______34
Abs Nitr _______11
Wtr %vol ______ Vis CS 100C __ 15.8
SAE Grade ____40
Gly test ______NEG
TBN _________not done
I tested my oil using this company: www.youroil.net
aehaas
Here is one reason I am comfortable with GC 0W30 in my Enzo, from an earlier post:
This is my neighbor’s 2003 Ferrari Enzo with a total of 8,800 miles. He had the oil changed by the Ferrari dealer using the required 10W-60 Shell Helix Ultra Racing oil.
This oil has 1,400 miles on it and it is still in use. The recommended interval is 5,000 miles, less if on the track. This is strictly off track use in town and on the highway, probably 50-50.
I will put this up again with my Enzo’s oil after I accumulate the same mileage on the 0W-30 GC I am currently running.
................................................................................................................
Iron___________ 32
Chromium _____ Nickel ________ 2
Aluminum ______11
lead __________ 16
Copper ________25
Tin ___________ Silver ________ Titanium ______ Silicon ________ 7
Boron ________ 1
Sodium _______ 8
Potassium ____ Molybdenum __ Phosphorus __1026
Zinc ________ 1135
Calcium _____ 1454
Barium ______ Magnesium ___1219
Antimony _____ Vanadium _____ Fuel %Vol _____ Abs Oxid ______34
Abs Nitr _______11
Wtr %vol ______ Vis CS 100C __ 15.8
SAE Grade ____40
Gly test ______NEG
TBN _________not done
I tested my oil using this company: www.youroil.net
aehaas
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