FRAM "Drive" is rated for 7,500 miles.You are going to get lots of anecdotal evidence....."done it for years, no problems!" ....kind of thing.
And where is the evidence for that? Marketing.FRAM "Drive" is rated for 7,500 miles.
FRAM Extra Guard, 10,000 miles
FRAM Tough Guard 15,000 miles
FRAM Ultra Synthetic, 20,000 miles.
FRAM Endurance, 25,000 miles.
Not picking "sides" here but the specific marketing of use for XX,XXX miles is marketing to a point. Those different mileage levels do have different media to hold more debris so it's more than just marketing & there is evidence they are constructed better (go longer miles) the higher you go up. They are constructed from a good, better, & best cost point for our ever increasing ODI mileage requirements. But yes you are correct in that it all is going to depend on an individual car on how long they can go on a mileage basis & how much debris it puts inside the filter. However, The longer mileage claimed filters are going to handle longer mileage runs on those cars too though but maybe not as long as what the mileage Fram is claiming. Which is why everyone capable of using one should have a filter cutter for inspection.And where is the evidence for that? Marketing.
How long a filter lasts is DIRECTLY related to how much soot and particulate the engine puts in the oil and how much surface area (capacity) is in the filter. Blanket statements like "its good for 20,000 miles) is pure Marketing. Or at least a good-better-more betterer-best-bestest comparison.
Like I said I have two 7.3s one in a 1996 F350 and another in a 1998 International 4700 cab/chassis truck. One holds a gallon more of oil, and the oil filter is 2x the size of the other.
Nope that’s a marketing strategy it only works under the very best conditions that in the real world nobody can do. The small print on those filters say will void your warranty if you exceed your manufacturer recommendation. Something to think about there.Some are following what the manufacturer tells them to do while others have bought a premium filter that can be ran multiple oil changes.
Wrong, If the OEM Auto states to change oil filter every other oil change & an aftermarket filter said "Meets or Exceeds OEM standards" then it would not be "Exceeding Manufacturer's Recommendation" as you say. The oil filter companies are well aware of what the OEM requirements are.Nope that’s a marketing strategy it only works under the very best conditions that in the real world nobody can do. The small print on those filters say will void your warranty if you exceed your manufacturer recommendation. Something to think about there.
So what you’re saying is the manufacturer put in writing engineered obsolescence and you have fallen for it. The recommended oil drain interval is the maximum amount you should do. Again planned obsolescence a 10,000 mile drain interval should be done at 8k. Will going to the maximum cause catastrophic damage no but it will cause premature wear and the need to buy again sooner than expected. Just because it says it can go 20,000 miles doesn’t mean I will do that.Wrong, If the OEM Auto states to change oil filter every other oil change & an aftermarket filter said "Meets or Exceeds OEM standards" then it would not be "Exceeding Manufacturer's Recommendation" as you say. The oil filter companies are well aware of what the OEM requirements are.
Don't be silly, nothing lasts forever.So what you’re saying is the manufacturer put in writing engineered obsolescence and you have fallen for it. The recommended oil drain interval is the maximum amount you should do. Again planned obsolescence a 10,000 mile drain interval should be done at 8k. Will going to the maximum cause catastrophic damage no but it will cause premature wear and the need to buy again sooner than expected. Just because it says it can go 20,000 miles doesn’t mean I will do that.
back in the day some OEM's advised changing the filter every other oil change so it isn't unheard of or a bad idea.Always change the filter with a oil change. Not doing that is the equivalency of only changing your underwear every other time you shower or bath . Got clean oil put a clean filter on.
You’re correct. To that point nothing lasts forever. You’re not correct on the planned obsolescence. Of running a engine to the maximum mileage for charging its oil and filter. That’s just speeding up the process. If you want to do 20 thousand miles on a oil change and a filter every other one. By all means do it. Just know you’re wearing out your engine faster by trying to save few dollars on oil and filters.Don't be silly, nothing lasts forever.
the maximum mileage can only be determined by oil analysis. anything else is just a guess. It is also worth saying most auto's that have some form of maintenance hit the junk heap for reasons other than the engine. ie when the cost to repair outweighs the value of the vehicle.You’re correct. To that point nothing lasts forever. You’re not correct on the planned obsolescence. Of running a engine to the maximum mileage for charging its oil and filter. That’s just speeding up the process. If you want to do 20 thousand miles on a oil change and a filter every other one. By all means do it. Just know you’re wearing out your engine faster by trying to save few dollars on oil and filters.
Do what makes you happy. Saving a few dollars now cost more later.the maximum mileage can only be determined by oil analysis. anything else is just a guess. It is also worth saying most auto's that have some form of maintenance hit the junk heap for reasons other than the engine. ie when the cost to repair outweighs the value of the vehicle.
hasn't hurt me yet.Do what makes you happy. Saving a few dollars now cost more later.
Defaulting to a bad analogy - it’s like taking a good long shower then putting on your same old stinky underwear. Just don’t. Not doing it is false economy.2003 F250 7.3 @ 177k miles
No towing, light use.
Live in Louisiana.
Been using T4 Rotella & FL1995/a Motorcraft filter every 5k miles.
During the recent happening I used Walmart SuperTech a couple of times and even mixed with T4 when I couldn’t find T4.
Had a NAPA oil test done and everything looked good per their rating (can’t find results sorry).
These oil filters have jumped to $27 f/ $9 so thinking to change every other oil change like I read some do.
My question
Does this sound ok re oil filter change?
Any recommendations for another cheaper filter? (Doc’s? Wix?)
Thanks for any input!