Oil Drain Valve ?

[Ndx]

Hi Guys, ( Not sure if its correct spot for this post I apologize if its not )

Any thoughts on those Oil Drain Valves ?
Its way better then old bolts ... '

I wonder about downsides ?

Any particular brand name ?


Does Canadian Tire or Part Source carry those ?

 

[scoobie]

i got my fumoto valve on ebay. downside is oil drains slightly slower, some people use a hacksaw to trim the lower part of it to ensure a full drain. upside is that it is a bit more convenient.

 

[Ndx]

yeah im worried about full drain problem .. how do they use hacksaw ?

Thank you.

 

[Barkleymut]

I had a Fram Suredrain on 2 old vehicles. One worked perfectly with zero problems. The other drained pretty slow. I definetly think they are worth the $$ if you have a plug that is going to shoot out the old oil onto any suspension or undercarriage components. Since my 2 remaining vehicles have no such challenge I have not installed them. I am thinking about a magnetic drain plug now.

 

[MONKEYMAN]

I have had a Fumato valve on my SL2 for several years and love it. It is a lot less messy unless you forget to close it when changing oil.

Over at Saturnfans one member has over 500,000 miles on his 95 SL2 and uses a Fumato valve. What I like about it is that I can drain oil without getting under the car while I getting the filter and oil together. Plus, last winter I was ill and just did a drain and refill without changing the filter. Was very easy using the Fumato valve. It was so easy I am doing the same thing this winter.

 

[Ndx]

Thank You guys

Cheers,

 

[bigbird_1]

I had an SW2 for 4 years and had a Fumoto installed on it for a while. The problem with the 1.9L Saturn engines is the location of the oil filter. The car MUST be jacked up to either access the oil filter from below or by removal of the right wheel well liner and wheel (stupid if you ask me). Since I had to jack the car up anyways, I didn't want to wait the triple amount of time for the oil to drain through the Fumoto, so I got rid of it after about 1 year and went back to the regular drain plug. Now my Cobalt, that's a very different story. With the cartridge oil filter so easily accessible from above, putting the Fumoto on was a no brainer. I don't have to jack up anything. Slide the drain pan under the car, rotate the Fumoto, and change the filter while draining the oil.
PS. Got my Fumotos on eBay as well. Use this guy :
http://stores.ebay.ca/QwikValve

He'll generally take $20 US on the "Best Offer". He ships to Canada reasonably and quickly.

 

[ARB1977]

I got one on the Taco.

 

[kingrob]

Originally Posted By: bigbird_1
I had an SW2 for 4 years and had a Fumoto installed on it for a while. The problem with the 1.9L Saturn engines is the location of the oil filter. The car MUST be jacked up to either access the oil filter from below or by removal of the right wheel well liner and wheel (stupid if you ask me). Since I had to jack the car up anyways, I didn't want to wait the triple amount of time for the oil to drain through the Fumoto, so I got rid of it after about 1 year and went back to the regular drain plug.



I agree. The Fumoto serves no purpose to me on the Saturn, in fact I took it off when I bought my SC2. The previous owner was changing the filter every other change because of the horrendous placement of the filter. I change my filter each OCI, so I figure if I've got to drive up on ramps to change the oil in the first place the Fumoto was redundant. I've found no reasonable way to get the filter off without making a huge mess on the undercarriage, so I just cover everything I can with newspaper and that seems to keep everything somewhat tidy.

My previous Saturn had a Fram Suredrain (?) on it when I bought it, which did come in handy being that it got once a month OCI's (used as a taxi cab). The previous owner cut an opening in the plastic wheel liner. To reach the filter all I had to do was turn the drive wheels all the way to the right and reach my hand back there. I actually found a use for Fram filters on this Satty because the grip lining on the bottom meant I didn't have to stick a wrench on there to take it off. It had more texture than the Advance Total Grips, so I paid the extra buck and a half for the otherwise useless texturing.

 

[Avinash]

I have a Pontiac Montana Mini Van. Fumoto valve will not fit,as it will run into transmission. Make sure it has room. Me personally I do not see a use for it, if you can reach the drain plug. Just dont tighten it too much, and it will be just as easy. Pain in the __ is the filter, and there is no escape from that.

 

[Spector]

they are better then sliced bread, have five of them on vehicles, been using them for over 10 years, never a failure, built like a tank and I let my oil drian overnight so if slightly slower, who cares. So much easier to do an oil change, no possibility of stripped bolts, no washer problems, a no brainer IMO

 

[thatguy]

I have looked at the Fumoto (quikvalve) but didnt particularly didnt like having that flip lever to open the valve

I ended up buying a FEMCO valve (which requires a drain tube to use), but sticks out much less..

Currently I have Femco (low profiles) on my Dodge Cummins, and John Deeere 2320 Compact tractor.. I have one on hand to install on my wifes Subaru Forester..

I got my Femco valves from http://www.nospillsystems.com/ they run about $40 (plus the $13 drain tube) vs the $25 for the Fumoto valve. But I think the lower profile is worth the added cost - and it is a solidly built valve.

Brian

 

[scoobie]

answer to question about the hacksaw trick, that is to screw in the
valve, see where it ends up, mark the bottom (6 o'clock position), unscrew valve, use hacksaw to trim the bottom-half threads on an angle, to encourage a more complete drain. if the valve protrudes into the pan, then it is impossible to drain it all, without doing this thread trimming. my cars are all really easy to access, so the advantage of the valve is only there is you're having frequent changes due to putting on lots of miles, for example taxi cab.

 

[dorkiedoode]

Originally Posted By: thatguy
I have looked at the Fumoto (quikvalve) but didnt particularly didnt like having that flip lever to open the valve

I ended up buying a FEMCO valve (which requires a drain tube to use), but sticks out much less..

Currently I have Femco (low profiles) on my Dodge Cummins, and John Deeere 2320 Compact tractor.. I have one on hand to install on my wifes Subaru Forester..

I got my Femco valves from http://www.nospillsystems.com/ they run about $40 (plus the $13 drain tube) vs the $25 for the Fumoto valve. But I think the lower profile is worth the added cost - and it is a solidly built valve.

Brian

interesting. does anyone else have similar thoughts? looking for one too.

 

[Ndx]

What about getting one for auto transsmision ? So It will be easy to drain, I just hate using Torque wrenches.

Femco Ones look really solid. And expensive too !

 

[Ndx]

Can't edit so I will update it this way...
I'm just not sure if those gaskets are compatibale with ATF Fluid .. That would be great way to do drain, flushes...

 

[thatguy]

Originally Posted By: Ndx
Can't edit so I will update it this way...
I'm just not sure if those gaskets are compatibale with ATF Fluid .. That would be great way to do drain, flushes...


I think the Femco would do ATF without problems Follow this link to some design specs..

I will paster a recap of the page below as well

Metal Parts:Basic Material Brass

Quality MS 58

Springs: Basic Material Stainless Steel

O-Rings: Basic Material Viton

Color Black

Temp. Range -60C to +200C

Compatibility: Engine oil, coolant, diesel fuel, gear lube, hydraulic fluid, etc.

Brian

 

[Ndx]

Thank You Sir

 

[bigbird_1]

I purchased a Femco and drain tube from the N. American distributor here in Winnipeg. They bring in 1/2 ton of Femco products every 2 weeks from the manufacturer in Holland. Femco apparently is very big in commercial and industrial applications. The valve and drain tube are very high quality, much better than the Fumoto in my opinion. The valve itself comes with a solid copper gasket, with a suggested torque of 12 ft. lbs. I'll be installing the valve when I do my next oil change in about 1 week. Of course I won't have any results on the draining procedure until the change after that, about another 3 months.

 

[zulu]

I just got my Fumoto w/ adapter for the Malibu in the mail today. It's a very solid, well made piece. I'll take some pics once I get it on there in a few days.