Oil Cooler

[TrainingPolicy]

In engines that are known for burning oil, would an oil cooler be any benefit for daily driving? Logically it sounds like it would, and if it did prevent oil burn off it would leave the engine 'cleaner' right? I am not sure, just an idea I have been passing around and didn't know if any of you guys had an knowledge about this. Thanks!

 

[zeng]

No, engine oil cooler does not prevent oil burn off .

 

[UncleDave]

Originally Posted by TrainingPolicy
In engines that are known for burning oil, would an oil cooler be any benefit for daily driving? Logically it sounds like it would, and if it did prevent oil burn off it would leave the engine 'cleaner' right? I am not sure, just an idea I have been passing around and didn't know if any of you guys had an knowledge about this. Thanks!


No, because burning oil is really internal leakage into the combustion chamber from various wear points like valve guides or rings, vs " burning" because its to hot so cooling it down isnt going to change that.

UD

 

[Linctex]

Correct, then engine will continue to consume oil - even if you did get the oil temps down a bit lower.

 

[OilUzer]

More unnecessary parts = more failures ... don't add additional parts like oil cooler unless you know what you are doing and why it's needed. My friend installed a cooler because he thought it was a "good idea" ... Couple years later, it was a "bad idea" since it started leaking. lol

 

[Oildudeny]

burning oil and evaporative loss are two different things in my mind.

"burning oil" getting by rings and seals going places it shouldn't.

evaporative loss is normal so what i know. different oils and engines just have more or less of this.

an oil cooler will maybe prolong oil life by it not cooking as much if you were getting the oil hot enough to start cooking it and thinning it out.

 

[Kira]

Is this an academic question?

If you have an oil burner please come back with year, make, model, engine and mileage.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Its mainly in general an academic question, yes. But if you want I can make up a car and you can crunch the numbers on that? Lets see, 2014 Fiat Abarth 56k miles. Give me what you got.
Originally Posted by Kira
Is this an academic question?

If you have an oil burner please come back with year, make, model, engine and mileage.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

LOL I do believe that is the entire point of this post? Do you guys just look for reason to try and look down on people or what? You literally offered zero to this conversation other than saying you had a friend whose oil cooler messed up. Thanks, but a waste of a post.
Originally Posted by OilUzer
More unnecessary parts = more failures ... don't add additional parts like oil cooler unless you know what you are doing and why it's needed. My friend installed a cooler because he thought it was a "good idea" ... Couple years later, it was a "bad idea" since it started leaking. lol

 

[4WD]

Probably too much for too little … a cooler could take off a few degrees that might be important for other reasons … but combustion chamber pressure and temps would still dominate if the ingress occurs.

 

[amblerman]

Btw.. The 2014 Fiat Abarth already an oil cooler. It's integrated into the oil filter housing.

it's the standard brick style that uses engine coolant to cool the oil.

So for the purposes of this discussion it should be titled "Will adding a second oil cooler help with oil burning."

The answer to that is no for the same reasons above. If oil is vanishing it's getting into combustion chambers and burning off or some other mechanism probably not significantly related to the actual temp of oil.


2 a sentence.>

 

[SwampSurvivor]

I have an oil cooler on my oil burner. Still uses oil.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Actually, the most correct way of saying it would be to upgrade and the oil cooler. I was just throwing one out there because I have a friend who has an Abarth and it burns oil like a mad man. I also have a civic with the K20 and it burned oil, and then my accord with the K24 burns oil, and then I'm looking into VQ's and supposedly they ALL burn oil. So my point was saying this was more of a generic question rather than vehicle specific that does it help with oil consumption overall. Lol but thanks you pulled the rug out from under me on that one ...‚
Originally Posted by amblerman
Btw.. The 2014 Fiat Abarth already an oil cooler. It's integrated into the oil filter housing.

it's the standard brick style that uses engine coolant to cool the oil.

So for the purposes of this discussion it should be titled "Will adding a second oil cooler help with oil burning."

The answer to that is no for the same reasons above. If oil is vanishing it's getting into combustion chambers and burning off or some other mechanism probably not significantly related to the actual temp of oil.


2 a sentence.>

 

[OilUzer]

Originally Posted by TrainingPolicy
LOL I do believe that is the entire point of this post? Do you guys just look for reason to try and look down on people or what? You literally offered zero to this conversation other than saying you had a friend whose oil cooler messed up. Thanks, but a waste of a post.
Originally Posted by OilUzer
More unnecessary parts = more failures ... don't add additional parts like oil cooler unless you know what you are doing and why it's needed. My friend installed a cooler because he thought it was a "good idea" ... Couple years later, it was a "bad idea" since it started leaking. lol



don't be too sensitive. I wasn't "looking down" ... just an advice. I gave the same advice to my friend asking if he knows the temperature range and why a cooler and more parts = more failures... He said no I don't know the temp but the cooler should help ... couple years later after near back to back leaks, he finally went stock because he was now concerned with the "reliability" ...

Basically what i offered was a reminder to measure twice, cut once. People ask for advice and then ignore. I know I do

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Not being sensitive, you just failed to add any value to the discussion other than your friend installed an oil cooler without doing proper research and are assuming I am in the same boat. but thanks for your input regardless.
Originally Posted by OilUzer
Originally Posted by TrainingPolicy
LOL I do believe that is the entire point of this post? Do you guys just look for reason to try and look down on people or what? You literally offered zero to this conversation other than saying you had a friend whose oil cooler messed up. Thanks, but a waste of a post.
Originally Posted by OilUzer
More unnecessary parts = more failures ... don't add additional parts like oil cooler unless you know what you are doing and why it's needed. My friend installed a cooler because he thought it was a "good idea" ... Couple years later, it was a "bad idea" since it started leaking. lol



don't be too sensitive. I wasn't "looking down" ... just an advice. I gave the same advice to my friend asking if he knows the temperature range and why a cooler and more parts = more failures... He said no I don't know the temp but the cooler should help ... couple years later after near back to back leaks, he finally went stock because he was now concerned with the "reliability" ...

Basically what i offered was a reminder to measure twice, cut once. People ask for advice and then ignore. I know I do

 

[Cdn17Sport6MT]

It should be said, generally, that the fewer fluid connections, often the better. Also, folks can tend to add equipment that is not quite OEM-style robust, or plumbed in that manner. So the comment does have merit, in my mind... YMMV.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

I am not disagreeing with his statement that it can't cause problems but I don't understand how it relates to me question. So I am confused. The question was "does oil coolers help with engine oil burn off", and you simply cannot answer that question with either of his comment nor yours. but hey, if you feel like it helps them keep it up.
Originally Posted by Cdn17Sport6MT
It should be said, generally, that the fewer fluid connections, often the better. Also, folks can tend to add equipment that is not quite OEM-style robust, or plumbed in that manner. So the comment does have merit, in my mind... YMMV.

 

[Cdn17Sport6MT]

Oil burning is almost always due to worn rings, worn valve stem seals. Adding an oil cooker does not in any material way mitigate / inprove those ailments. So the answer is no...