Hi guys...I recently received an estimate for replacing the timing belt on the Villager (115k miles and 15 years old...figure it's time). The shop shows an oil change after the replacement as "recommended" and includes the oil change in the estimate. I plan on having it done somewhere else and have never heard of anyone recommending an oil change after the timing belt was replaced. Has anyone ever heard of this...and if so, why (I'm not aware of any contamination issues by replacing the t-belt)?
Oil change after timing belt replacement?
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Are they popping the valve covers off when doing the timing belt? I would assume so and generally it is a good idea to change the oil after any time of work where engine components come off.
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I'm guessing it's just an up-sell. When I did my timing belt,all that comes off is the timing belt cover on the front of the engine. Nothing oil related comes off or is exposed.
There is generally little reason to change the oil after a timing belt change. The "beauty" of timing belts is that they're dry and don't rely on engine oil as a lubricant, and the timing belt area is usually not open to engine oil. The timing covers are essentially just plastic dust covers.
Bottom line: I agree that they're up-selling the oil change. I would decline and change it at your next scheduled interval.
Bottom line: I agree that they're up-selling the oil change. I would decline and change it at your next scheduled interval.
The only reason I would suggest it is if they find seals leaking that should be addressed while the timing cover is off. A lot of times we find cam (on engines that have them) or crank seals leaking when doing a timing belt and it would be a disservice to the customer to not take care of it at that time.
I think it depends on the car. Some require opening the valve cover. Others probably just remove the belt covers.
If the valve cover is opened, then yes, change the oil.
Is there a valve cover gasket quoted? If so, chances are, they are opening the valve cover.
If the valve cover is opened, then yes, change the oil.
Is there a valve cover gasket quoted? If so, chances are, they are opening the valve cover.
Do tell on the prices your getting
It's coming up to Timing Belt time on my V/Q
The only reason I could think of the OCI is for replacement Camshaft and Crankshaft seals, where draining the oil's pretty much a given
Do check into the quality and pricing of the parts there using
If there not great, or charging inordinately extra for them.
Nissan's timing belt kits are Extremely reasonably priced for the amount of stuff you get, and there OEM. It's probably what I'm gonna go for when I do mine
http://www.courtesyparts.com/bundle-timi..._7672_7673&
It's coming up to Timing Belt time on my V/Q
The only reason I could think of the OCI is for replacement Camshaft and Crankshaft seals, where draining the oil's pretty much a given
Do check into the quality and pricing of the parts there using
If there not great, or charging inordinately extra for them.
Nissan's timing belt kits are Extremely reasonably priced for the amount of stuff you get, and there OEM. It's probably what I'm gonna go for when I do mine
http://www.courtesyparts.com/bundle-timi..._7672_7673&
I purchased my own timing belt kit/water pump made by Aisin (which I believe is the OEM manufacturer for Nissan and a lot of other brands...paid a little more). The shop quoted the same brand (their quoted price was more than double what I paid for the same kit). I was wondering if they were anticipating replacing crank/cam seals...can't even imagine that being a big contamination issue (they quoted $40 for a dino oil change...). At this point I'm having a local guy do the work (he's the best around and very fair priced...can bring your own parts...nearly impossible to get your car in though...he's that busy) I'll get the oil changed when it's due.
Originally Posted By: javacontour
I think it depends on the car. Some require opening the valve cover. Others probably just remove the belt covers.
If the valve cover is opened, then yes, change the oil.
It's a VG33E. The valve covers stay on and cam/crank seal problems are rare.
I think it depends on the car. Some require opening the valve cover. Others probably just remove the belt covers.
If the valve cover is opened, then yes, change the oil.
It's a VG33E. The valve covers stay on and cam/crank seal problems are rare.
If a timing belt driven water pump is near the oiling system, I could see a risk of coolant contamination, a good reason to change oil.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about how your engine water pump is located.
Sure, cam and crank seals last a long time on a Nissan VG engine, but many take the opportunity to replace them, simply because they could fail halfway into the life of the replacement belt.
Unfortunately, I don't know much about how your engine water pump is located.
Sure, cam and crank seals last a long time on a Nissan VG engine, but many take the opportunity to replace them, simply because they could fail halfway into the life of the replacement belt.
Nissan vg30 in the mercury villagers do not need the valve covers off.
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I would go ahead and do the seals. When I did mine,I replaced everything. Water pump,thermostat,all cam/oil seals,belt tentioner,etc. I also replaced all the drive belts/accessory belts and coolant hoses.
Not familiar with your motor, but when I do a timing belt, I remove the lower pulley and pump to pop in a new crank seal.
Im already in there...so why not.
Maybe thats why they included an oil change.
Im already in there...so why not.
Maybe thats why they included an oil change.
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