Oil Additive Test

[c3po]

I was thinking about a way to test these products:

1) Auto-rx
2) Seafoam
3) MMO
4) Risolone
5) Gunk Motor Flush

I am sure there are others, so anyone can mention them since they are not in my head right now.

We could take an engine with 100,000 miles and do a:

1) Compression Test
2) UOA
3) Tear engine down and show pictures
4) Put engine back together and add the Oil Additive
5) Compression Test
6) UOA
7) Tear engine down and show pictures

Obviously with the auto-rx, you would have to do a Clean and Rinse, and then do 5-7.

With Seafoam, MMO, and Rislone maybe you could run the engine for a few thousand miles before doing a UOA, Compression Test, and tearing the engine down again.

I originally wanted to call this an Auto-rx test, but I felt it would only be fair to include the other oil additives that get attention in this section.

I know that we all use different products in our engines and what we post are our observations, but sometimes observations are not enough to convince people that a product works.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[postjeeprcr]

There are other additives other then Auto RX?

 

[rszappa1]

Wow you would think that was the only one and out of all of them IT WORKS.

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
There are other additives other then Auto RX?

That is why I mentioned:

1) Seafoam
2) MMO
3) Risolone
4) Gunk Motor Flush

 

[rg200amp]

Whos paying for this???

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Whos paying for this???

Mori, just kidding.

 

[bruce381]

since additives can have an effect after they are drianed you need 4-5 engines to test each one in.

or just get an old oil pan and make 5-6 dents on bottom with a hammer and put a few drops of each one in the "dent" and set aside for a week or so then pitr off the liquid and take a look??
bruce

 

[demarpaint]

You would need an engine to test each product with. Once product "A" is applied how would product "B" be tested, and not have some results caused by the product used before it? You would need the same year make and model engine, in the same condition with the same amount of miles. That would be a tall order, and the testing including disassembly would be big $$$. Any other way wouldn't be a fair test. JMO

It would be interesting if it could be done. How about just before and after shots of the above products being used? Along with comments, etc. Then base your opinions on that.

 

[bruce381]

or take an old oil pan and cut some test strips from the bottom with tin snips that have the same amount of gunk on them and dunk 1 strip into bottel of test oil with messured amount of cleaner say 5% into a base PCMO.

then let soak a few weeks
bruce

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: bruce381
or take an old oil pan and cut some test strips from the bottom with tin snips that have the same amount of gunk on them and dunk 1 strip into bottel of test oil with messured amount of cleaner say 5% into a base PCMO.

then let soak a few weeks
bruce


But then it could be said that heat and circulation are a part of the cleaning process. Just playing Devils Advocate.

 

[Gary Allan]

Cut the pan up, as Bruce suggested, and then put it in a beaker with oil and agent of choice ..and put it on a lab hot plate with a magnetic stirrer

It's on my list of ebay snipes ..but my hobby equipment budget is blown through summer.

 

[demarpaint]

Nice idea Gary. Now if all of the hard thinking BITOG minds could just figure out how to jump start the economy we'd be Golden!

 

[postjeeprcr]

Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
There are other additives other then Auto RX?

That is why I mentioned:

1) Seafoam
2) MMO
3) Risolone
4) Gunk Motor Flush


I know, it was a joke since there are easily more posts on Auto RX then all other additive combined, hopefully you are able to do some kind of test, it would be interesting to see.

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
There are other additives other then Auto RX?

That is why I mentioned:

1) Seafoam
2) MMO
3) Risolone
4) Gunk Motor Flush


I know, it was a joke since there are easily more posts on Auto RX then all other additive combined, hopefully you are able to do some kind of test, it would be interesting to see.


I am sorry that I did not see it as a joke, now I understand.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Whos paying for this???

That's right, a guy named Whos is financing this endeavor!

 

[greenaccord02]

I thought he was playing on 1st base...

 

[panthermike]

This would be a cool test, although I do agree that different motors would be needed for each additive.

 

[Gary Allan]

1) Auto-rx
2) Seafoam
3) MMO
4) Risolone
5) Gunk Motor Flush


I dunno how you would manage this on a bench.

I guess you could leave Seafoam, MMO, Rislone (the solvents) and Auto-Rx in the beaker for some specified number of hours (to simulate an entire OCI) ..and then run a normal batch of oil along side it ..dump in the appropriate Gunk MF and let it spin for the 5 minutes or so that they recommend.

How many hours would you do something like this for? 50 hours?

 

[bmwtechguy]

Sounds like a cool test, but may be somewhat hard to show an objective comparison between all of these as they so different, as well as other issues mentioned by others.

I have seen #5 take 2 badly sludged engines out of service immediately after its use. Fortunately I was not the guy who decided to run it in those engines. This was years ago, but the memory is still vivid. It probably works as intended in engines that are not so terribly "gunked up".

 

[c3po]

I have seen so many arguments in this section about what certain oil additves can or cannot do.

How many times have we heard that a certain cheap oil additive can do the same job as a more expensive oil additive.

I am staying neutral and I would think some sort of test could answer a lot of questions.