OFFICIAL: Ford F-150 “Lightning” EV

[alarmguy]

For reference the heat energy density of gasoline v.s. lithium-ion is about 100 times higher, by weight or by volume.

Good point, scary part about lithium is it doesn’t need air to burn.
It wouldn’t stop me from buying an electric vehicle if one was practical for my lifestyle.
No need for anyone to be afraid. Lithium is more than proving itself safe


Personally I think Ford is on a roll, I’m pretty impressed and cheering for them.

 

[alarmguy]

Well isn’t that something, Four months is the exact wait time for my nephews mustang Mach E that he just ordered.
You got that one right on the head

…Sure, you can get a Mustang EV, a Hummer EV or,,,, if you are willing to wait 4 to 6 months (or even more).

 

[Cujet]

Well isn’t that something, Four months is the exact wait time for my nephews mustang Mach E that he just ordered.
You got that one right on the head

I do not want to be the prophet of doom. I would like to see GM, Ford and others succeed, produce cool stuff and refine their new EV's into epic vehicles. But right now, the production numbers are horrific and it shows.

We are a very wealthy nation and our automotive culture is carrying us through the shortages. But sooner or later, manufacturers are going to have to produce vehicles in about the numbers they did just a few years ago. Ford is producing half what they were. And the empty dealerships and 4 cars per month allotment speak to real problems.

The planned EV production numbers will not be met.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I do not want to be the prophet of doom. I would like to see GM, Ford and others succeed, produce cool stuff and refine their new EV's into epic vehicles. But right now, the production numbers are horrific and it shows.

We are a very wealthy nation and our automotive culture is carrying us through the shortages. But sooner or later, manufacturers are going to have to produce vehicles in about the numbers they did just a few years ago. Ford is producing half what they were. And the empty dealerships and 4 cars per month allotment speak to real problems.

The planned EV production numbers will not be met.

There are cause and effect reasons for our problems. Short term thinking. Hopefully we have learned. I am not sure we have.
It is not a technology issue; it is a business and something-else issue.

 

[sk_pete]

I'll let some other brave souls beta test for a while.

Many automakers say solid-state in 4years.
Why buy now ?

 

[OVERKILL]

Many automakers say solid-state in 4years.
Why buy now ?

Ehh, I think we're a ways away from proven solid state, and it has its own suite of issues that still need to be worked through.

 

[Cujet]

Many automakers say solid-state in 4years.
Why buy now ?

Most are unaware that SS batteries have been under serious development with the major companies (including Toyota) since 2012. Some of the downsides have not been overcome and SS cells are still exceedingly expensive to produce. I know that some companies are claiming to operate the SS cells at lower temperatures, but the nature of a solid electrolyte requires higher temperatures for operation. Any way you slice it, cold weather performance suffers.

I'm not at all sure I want to be a 1st gen SS battery adopter.

 

[E365]

Production begins today.

 

[E365]

CEO Jim Farley said a 2nd EV pickup is coming, different that the F-150.

 

[E365]

Anyone know what’s going on at 6:20. Big robot arm seems to press down on the bed, compress the suspension, then release

 

[ZeeOSix]

Anyone know what’s going on at 6:20. Big robot arm seems to press down on the bed, compress the suspension, then release

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Maybe checking the rear suspension squat when the rated payload force is applied to the bed - ??.

 

[E365]

Maybe checking the rear suspension squat when the rated payload force is applied to the bed - ??.

I was thinking something along those line. Then there’s that massive rigid arm above it - I wonder what that’s for

 

[ZeeOSix]

I was thinking something along those line. Then there’s that massive rigid arm above it - I wonder what that’s for

It looks like what the vertical loading piece reacts against when it applies the load to the bed. You can see the top of the vertical piece move away from the fixed massive piece above it after the load if released from the bed.

 

[E365]

Figured it out. It applies a load to bed to calibrate the built-in load sensors under the bed. I forgot the F-150 weighs your payload automatically.

 

[E365]

It looks like what the vertical loading piece reacts against when it applies the load to the bed. You can see the top of the vertical piece move away from the fixed massive piece above it after the load if released from the bed.

Ahh yes. I see that looking closer now. Looks like a giant chunk of steel painted yellow up there that it’s pushing against.

 

[E365]

Horsepower now higher than originally quoted.

452 HP / 775 lb-ft for the standard range battery.
580 HP / 775 lb-ft for the extended range battery.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/202...98484&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

 

[E365]

Media review embargo ended this morning.

 

[E365]

TLF “Ike Gauntlet” test.

Main takeaway is the Lightning’s downhill regen, with a trailer, is WAY better than a Rivian or Tesla. They got back 7% of the battery charge in 8 miles with zero brake applications.

 

[Cujet]

It's really cool to watch the Lightning use 16% of it's battery going up an 8 mile hill, then regain 7% on the way back down. A casual look at the energy consumption towing uphill was about 2.3-2.4KWh per mile. These guys do a good job with their testing.

 

[ctechbob]

It's really cool to watch the Lightning use 16% of it's battery going up an 8 mile hill, then regain 7% on the way back down. A casual look at the energy consumption towing uphill was about 2.3-2.4KWh per mile. These guys do a good job with their testing.

Indeed. It was interesting to see that in a couple of spots going downhill they actually had to step on the go pedal to speed back up to 50 as the regen was slowing it down so much.