oem Honda 0w20 , 55000km ,2018 Honda Civic 1.5T

[kschachn]

I never said oil would fix the dilution .I said the air intake would .It changes the fuel trims which will prevent how much fuel gets injected into cylinder,and how much correction the engine has to make to have a perfect A/F mixture.Which also changes how much fuel that gets pass the cylinders and into the oil.It will always have some fuel dillution since its DI but 4% is too much since most others with the same engine have less then 0.5%.
I changed the oil because i didn't want to buy the expensive oem honda oil.So i switched to something which was cheaper and easy to get by and equally good .

If that air intake changes the fuel trim that much you will have other issues. Besides, don’t you have a mass air flow sensor after the filter?

Excessive fuel dilution like this is caused by a mechanical or design defect.

 

[CarfriendXX]

With this engine, the problem with the dilution of the fuel is known. It is far from an isolated case. I would leave the intervals at 10000 kilometres and operate with an SAE30 oil.

 

[CarfriendXX]

It is a design problem

 

[Hondanickx]

If that air intake changes the fuel trim that much you will have other issues. Besides, don’t you have a mass air flow sensor after the filter?

Excessive fuel dilution like this is caused by a mechanical or design defect

I will take another oil sample after 7500km and let you know what the results are.

 

[himemsys]

Im not sure if you're reading this right but iron went down from 22 to 12 which is pretty big difference ( to me atleast) and aluminium went down from 5 to 4 .So that didn't increased it decreased actually.Or i am reading this all wrong...
Im not fond on using a higher winter rating so 5w30 is a no for me,unless i would only track drive this car.
I use this car as a daily and drive it all winter too.

First sample was 2.11ppm per 1000km. Second sample was 1.58ppm per 1000km for the iron. It is better, but not the difference between 22 and 12 better.

 

[kschachn]

First sample was 2.11ppm per 1000km. Second sample was 1.58ppm per 1000km for the iron. It is better, but not the difference between 22 and 12 better.

And the correlation to the oil is what?

 

[kschachn]

I will take another oil sample after 7500km and let you know what the results are.

No correlation to the oil can possibly be determined here. You’re not even on the same planet. Even if you are on the same planet you have no way of determining that.

 

[himemsys]

And the correlation to the oil is what?

I am responding to his statement about 12 being significantly better than 22. I was giving the ppm/1000 mi perspective, whereby the two values are actually much closer to each other (arguably within margin of error since both values could be rounded to 2). I was not implying one oil was wearing differently than the other oil.

 

[tolian21]

I got 4.0% on Honda 2.0t engine also with mostly highway. There is nothing mechanically wrong with your engine, this is how all new Honda DI engines are. Not much you can do other than more frequent oil changes 3-4k miles and possibly using xw30 grade to compensate for viscosity drop. Forget about expensive oils, buy cheap one and change more often.

 

[CarfriendXX]

Several trend analyses can very well reflect the condition of a component in the engine. It is not for nothing that many large mechanical engineering companies make such analyses of their devices. An analysis alone certainly says nothing, but a whole series does. Even if they only show particles smaller than 5 micrometres, these are the particles mainly located in the engine.

 

[tyman]

post answered

 

[CarfriendXX]

No, here in Europe Honda uses only Engine Type 2.0 0W20 With Over 600 Moly. No other 0w20 is allowed.

 

[tyman]

No, here in Europe Honda uses only Engine Type 2.0 0W20 With Over 600 Moly. No other 0w20 is allowed.

Interesting. Can you posts pics of the bottles?

ETA: I see your post now that it’s made by Idemitsu in Europe.

 

[CarfriendXX]

Here it is.

 

[CarfriendXX]

At the honda dealer, the oil now costs 28€ per litre, so many resort to alternatives. Previous experience with the oil is great, even mileage over 200000 kilometres is no problem with it.

 

[CarfriendXX]

A type r with almost 200000 kilometres is offered here. Filled exclusively with the above oil every almost 20000 kilometres. Vehicle only drove long distance and that with this thinnest oil. Practice shows once again how well these oils work. Honda is simply brilliant, but other manufacturers also show how well 0w20 works.

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[Fahrvergnügen]

If that air intake changes the fuel trim that much you will have other issues. Besides, don’t you have a mass air flow sensor after the filter?

Excessive fuel dilution like this is caused by a mechanical or design defect.

93 octane puts a handle on the fuel dilution. Doesn’t completely go away but decreases it substantially.

 

[Fahrvergnügen]

No, here in Europe Honda uses only Engine Type 2.0 0W20 With Over 600 Moly. No other 0w20 is allowed.

That oil is only used for CAFE period. ACEA C3 oil is actually recommended. So Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 is best choice.

 

[tolian21]

93 octane puts a handle on the fuel dilution. Doesn’t completely go away but decreases it substantially.

Not true in my case

 

[CarfriendXX]

That oil is only used for CAFE period. ACEA C3 oil is actually recommended. So Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 is best choice.

I dont think so. The engines will be Fine With this Engine oil. Moly works very well