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oem brake pads and rotors 06 Lucerne
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Personally, I would go a little higher end on the pads. A lot of people like Bendix CT-3, Akebono ProACT, Wagner Thermoquiets and others. The Bendix and ProAct should be made in the USA or Canada. I personally try to avoid Chinese parts when possible. Amazon usually has good prices on these brands.
You may also want to consider going with OE pads, if you've been satisfied with the factory pads. I don't own any GM cars right now, so I don't have an online Buick parts dealer to recommend.
I recently went with Raybestos Pro Grade rotors on my Sonata. They've been fine, but I wish I would have spent a little more to get the Advance Tech rotors with the anti-rust coating on the hat and vanes, or at least painted my rotors before I installed them. They're getting pretty rusty already in the vanes.
You may also want to consider going with OE pads, if you've been satisfied with the factory pads. I don't own any GM cars right now, so I don't have an online Buick parts dealer to recommend.
I recently went with Raybestos Pro Grade rotors on my Sonata. They've been fine, but I wish I would have spent a little more to get the Advance Tech rotors with the anti-rust coating on the hat and vanes, or at least painted my rotors before I installed them. They're getting pretty rusty already in the vanes.
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Originally Posted By: stephen9666
Personally, I would go a little higher end on the pads. A lot of people like Bendix CT-3, Akebono ProACT, Wagner Thermoquiets and others. The Bendix and ProAct should be made in the USA or Canada. I personally try to avoid Chinese parts when possible. Amazon usually has good prices on these brands.
You may also want to consider going with OE pads, if you've been satisfied with the factory pads. I don't own any GM cars right now, so I don't have an online Buick parts dealer to recommend.
I recently went with Raybestos Pro Grade rotors on my Sonata. They've been fine, but I wish I would have spent a little more to get the Advance Tech rotors with the anti-rust coating on the hat and vanes, or at least painted my rotors before I installed them. They're getting pretty rusty already in the vanes.
I've had very good luck with the Thermo Quiet pads, everytime I've used them I've gotten good performance and long life out of them with minimal dust. I'll keep using them. The last time I did the brakes on the GP I used the Raybestos Advance Tech rotors with the black coating on the hat and vanes, it rusted significantly during the first winter anyway. I think non-coated roaters with caliper paint on them last longer. I won't buy them again, they were also made in China. What brands still make their rotors in North America?
Personally, I would go a little higher end on the pads. A lot of people like Bendix CT-3, Akebono ProACT, Wagner Thermoquiets and others. The Bendix and ProAct should be made in the USA or Canada. I personally try to avoid Chinese parts when possible. Amazon usually has good prices on these brands.
You may also want to consider going with OE pads, if you've been satisfied with the factory pads. I don't own any GM cars right now, so I don't have an online Buick parts dealer to recommend.
I recently went with Raybestos Pro Grade rotors on my Sonata. They've been fine, but I wish I would have spent a little more to get the Advance Tech rotors with the anti-rust coating on the hat and vanes, or at least painted my rotors before I installed them. They're getting pretty rusty already in the vanes.
I've had very good luck with the Thermo Quiet pads, everytime I've used them I've gotten good performance and long life out of them with minimal dust. I'll keep using them. The last time I did the brakes on the GP I used the Raybestos Advance Tech rotors with the black coating on the hat and vanes, it rusted significantly during the first winter anyway. I think non-coated roaters with caliper paint on them last longer. I won't buy them again, they were also made in China. What brands still make their rotors in North America?
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
And they wonder why our economy is recovering so slowly. ^^^
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
Those say made in USA but are probably chinese castings just finished machined in the USA like some Centrics and similar sport rotors. Also they are sport rotors that are crossed drilled and slotted, not exactly OE style, they're probably as expensive or more than OEM, with limited avalability. So they're still not exactly a viable made in usa OE style rotor alternative.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
Those aren't normal replacement rotors, which is what I was referring to.
Plus, how old is that description? It could be outdated. I think the last foundries closed in recent years.
Also, some companies use imported blanks then machine them in the USA. Whoever wrote that description could be referring to that.
Anyway, here's what EBC brakes says.
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive/ebc_premium_replacement_rotors/index.shtml
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None of our competitors will ever tell you where their rotors come from and we at EBC are as disappointed as the rest of the world that cost pressure means there is not ONE foundry left in the USA to supply such parts
Unless you find some old stock sitting on a shelf somewhere, you'll be very hard pressed to find USA made rotors for the average car.
Originally Posted By: stephen9666
Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
What brands still make their rotors in North America?
None, basically. There aren't any aftermarket rotor foundries in the US anymore. The vast majority, even the expensive brands, now come from China.
My Raybestos Pro rotors were Chinese, also. I knew that when I bought them. I researched other brands but I couldn't find any that weren't Chinese, unless I spent way more.
You can find some rotors from places like Korea and Brazil, but they're in the minority.
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
Those aren't normal replacement rotors, which is what I was referring to.
Plus, how old is that description? It could be outdated. I think the last foundries closed in recent years.
Also, some companies use imported blanks then machine them in the USA. Whoever wrote that description could be referring to that.
Anyway, here's what EBC brakes says.
http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive/ebc_premium_replacement_rotors/index.shtml
Quote:
None of our competitors will ever tell you where their rotors come from and we at EBC are as disappointed as the rest of the world that cost pressure means there is not ONE foundry left in the USA to supply such parts
Unless you find some old stock sitting on a shelf somewhere, you'll be very hard pressed to find USA made rotors for the average car.
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"Made in USA with high quality iron castings," does seem kind of suspicious.
my mechanic says there are japanese made rotors- name something like "mountain"?
they use these with akebono pads which are toyota oem, pads made in usa I think
they use these with akebono pads which are toyota oem, pads made in usa I think
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Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
I was looking into this a little more, and the site you linked to seems to be hosted in Russia and not really affiliated with the actual AlliedSignal, which no longer exists.
Plus, I can't find any places online that actually sell Allied Signal® Sport Brake Discs. Can you find anyplace selling them?
According to Wikipedia, AlliedSignal bought Honeywell in 1999, and took that name. So, what was AlliedSignal is now Honeywell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlliedSignal
Quote:
AlliedSignal was an American aerospace, automotive and engineering company created through the 1985 merger of Allied Corp. and Signal Companies. It subsequently purchased Honeywell for $15 billion in 1999, and thereafter adopted the Honeywell name and identity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell
Honeywell owns Bendix, but I haven't recently heard of any USA made Bendix brake rotors. Bendix does offer USA and Canadian brake pads, though.
Long story short, I wouldn't take what that website says as truth.
BTW - here's the domain info I found for allied-signal.com
Quote:
Domain name: ALLIED-SIGNAL.COM
Name Server: ns1.nnz.ru
Name Server: ns1.savelovgrad.ru
Creation Date: 2004.09.26
Updated Date: 2011.03.28
Expiration Date: 2012.09.26
Status: DELEGATED
Registrant ID: CAEXBPQ-RU
Registrant Name: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Registrant Organization: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Registrant Street1: 1, Skladochnaya str.,
Registrant Street1: b.15
Registrant City: Moscow
Registrant State: Moscow
Registrant Postal Code: 127018
Registrant Country: RU
Administrative, Technical Contact
Contact ID: CAEXBPQ-RU
Contact Name: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Contact Organization: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Contact Street1: 1, Skladochnaya str.,
Contact Street1: b.15
Contact City: Moscow
Contact State: Moscow
Contact Postal Code: 127018
Contact Country: RU
Contact Phone: +7 495 5102770
Contact Fax: +7 495 5102771
Contact E-mail: [email protected]
Registrar: Regional Network Information Center, JSC dba RU-CENTER
Last updated on 2012.06.20 22:20:31 MSK/MSD
Interesting.
I guess someone forgot to tell folks like Allied Signal.
Originally Posted By: Product Description from Allied Signal
Sport Brake Discs are available for many Japanese, European & US cars. Made in USA with high quality iron castings, the Allied Signal’s Sport Brake Discs represents a high performance brake disc with good “behind wheel” looks.
I was looking into this a little more, and the site you linked to seems to be hosted in Russia and not really affiliated with the actual AlliedSignal, which no longer exists.
Plus, I can't find any places online that actually sell Allied Signal® Sport Brake Discs. Can you find anyplace selling them?
According to Wikipedia, AlliedSignal bought Honeywell in 1999, and took that name. So, what was AlliedSignal is now Honeywell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlliedSignal
Quote:
AlliedSignal was an American aerospace, automotive and engineering company created through the 1985 merger of Allied Corp. and Signal Companies. It subsequently purchased Honeywell for $15 billion in 1999, and thereafter adopted the Honeywell name and identity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell
Honeywell owns Bendix, but I haven't recently heard of any USA made Bendix brake rotors. Bendix does offer USA and Canadian brake pads, though.
Long story short, I wouldn't take what that website says as truth.
BTW - here's the domain info I found for allied-signal.com
Quote:
Domain name: ALLIED-SIGNAL.COM
Name Server: ns1.nnz.ru
Name Server: ns1.savelovgrad.ru
Creation Date: 2004.09.26
Updated Date: 2011.03.28
Expiration Date: 2012.09.26
Status: DELEGATED
Registrant ID: CAEXBPQ-RU
Registrant Name: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Registrant Organization: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Registrant Street1: 1, Skladochnaya str.,
Registrant Street1: b.15
Registrant City: Moscow
Registrant State: Moscow
Registrant Postal Code: 127018
Registrant Country: RU
Administrative, Technical Contact
Contact ID: CAEXBPQ-RU
Contact Name: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Contact Organization: OOO "DC TAIPIT"
Contact Street1: 1, Skladochnaya str.,
Contact Street1: b.15
Contact City: Moscow
Contact State: Moscow
Contact Postal Code: 127018
Contact Country: RU
Contact Phone: +7 495 5102770
Contact Fax: +7 495 5102771
Contact E-mail: [email protected]
Registrar: Regional Network Information Center, JSC dba RU-CENTER
Last updated on 2012.06.20 22:20:31 MSK/MSD
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As a final consideration for your new pads, check the ratings on the side of the pad [or packaging].
These are friction ratings, warm and hot.
EE is OK. FF is better . GG would REALLY grab, but mostly found on motorcycle pads. You may see EF or FE - a mixture.
These are friction ratings, warm and hot.
EE is OK. FF is better . GG would REALLY grab, but mostly found on motorcycle pads. You may see EF or FE - a mixture.
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