Nobody sells oil drain bolt washers?
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I've seen many aftermarket oil filters come with a new sealing washer. My ex used to work at Valvoline Instant Oil Change and she said they put a whole new drain plug with new washer of course, on many makes of car, like all Hondas that get an oil change get a new drain plug.
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I wouldn't want to re-use a used washer.
Why not ? It will be fine. You do realize that outside of dealer oil changes and a small percentage of DIYers, people re-use the washer every single day with no issues.
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Every auto parts service worker behind the desk pointed me to where various washers are on the shelf.
So they do in fact sell them but you don't know which you need ?
Measure the drain plug's flange O.D. and go from there. Odds are there won't be multiple I.D. choices to select from (bolt head size is generally related to the threaded part of the bolt).
I wouldn't want to re-use a used washer.
Why not ? It will be fine. You do realize that outside of dealer oil changes and a small percentage of DIYers, people re-use the washer every single day with no issues.
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Every auto parts service worker behind the desk pointed me to where various washers are on the shelf.
So they do in fact sell them but you don't know which you need ?
Measure the drain plug's flange O.D. and go from there. Odds are there won't be multiple I.D. choices to select from (bolt head size is generally related to the threaded part of the bolt).
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Autozone has them, may not be vehicle specific. I bought a 5 pack of 5/8" plastics in the help section.
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Originally Posted by y_p_w
...I haven't found anything that works better for a Honda/Acura. Apparently a lot of Hyundai owners just go out and get Honda crush washers, which are functionally identical to Hyndai OEM crush washers but sell for more.
On my wife's 1.5L Ecoboost Fusion, I've gotten an annoying weeping of oil from the drain plug since we bought it (used). I've done 3-4 oil changes on it and for the first few times, it leaked. I even used a torque wrench to confirm the drain plug was tightened sufficiently. On the last one, I pulled out a Honda crush washer and it fits - so I used it. So far, so good. I'll continue to use them at this point.
...I haven't found anything that works better for a Honda/Acura. Apparently a lot of Hyundai owners just go out and get Honda crush washers, which are functionally identical to Hyndai OEM crush washers but sell for more.
On my wife's 1.5L Ecoboost Fusion, I've gotten an annoying weeping of oil from the drain plug since we bought it (used). I've done 3-4 oil changes on it and for the first few times, it leaked. I even used a torque wrench to confirm the drain plug was tightened sufficiently. On the last one, I pulled out a Honda crush washer and it fits - so I used it. So far, so good. I'll continue to use them at this point.
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Sure glad I didn't decide to drain the oil in my four month-old 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4 GDI first. I wouldn't want to re-use a used washer.
With millions of 2.4s on the road today (Kia/Hyundai), you would think auto part stores would stock these.
Every auto parts service worker behind the desk pointed me to where various washers are on the shelf. I haven't a clue which one fits my bolt, not without draining the oil first. Every service desk guy wanted to see my old one.
I'm not chancing a leak afterwards. So I will go to the dealer tomorrow. I suppose I could buy it from Kia, which is a shorter distance to my home.
Your owners manual may have the answer.
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Sure glad I didn't decide to drain the oil in my four month-old 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4 GDI first. I wouldn't want to re-use a used washer.
With millions of 2.4s on the road today (Kia/Hyundai), you would think auto part stores would stock these.
Every auto parts service worker behind the desk pointed me to where various washers are on the shelf. I haven't a clue which one fits my bolt, not without draining the oil first. Every service desk guy wanted to see my old one.
I'm not chancing a leak afterwards. So I will go to the dealer tomorrow. I suppose I could buy it from Kia, which is a shorter distance to my home.
Your owners manual may have the answer.
I just don't like the AL drain plug gasket. I've been using the nitrile inside of metal gasker, use it over and over.
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Originally Posted by chrissobel
I've seen many aftermarket oil filters come with a new sealing washer. My ex used to work at Valvoline Instant Oil Change and she said they put a whole new drain plug with new washer of course, on many makes of car, like all Hondas that get an oil change get a new drain plug.
I would be seriously livid it they replaced my factory drain plug in my Honda with some bargain basement aftermarket garbage... Of course they wouldn't be changing the oil but what kind of moron would replace a perfectly good factory drain plug that didn't require it per the factory (which certainly "all" Hondas do not)...
I've seen many aftermarket oil filters come with a new sealing washer. My ex used to work at Valvoline Instant Oil Change and she said they put a whole new drain plug with new washer of course, on many makes of car, like all Hondas that get an oil change get a new drain plug.
I would be seriously livid it they replaced my factory drain plug in my Honda with some bargain basement aftermarket garbage... Of course they wouldn't be changing the oil but what kind of moron would replace a perfectly good factory drain plug that didn't require it per the factory (which certainly "all" Hondas do not)...
I get mine off of Amazon
Your over thinking this. Washers rarely get replaced.
Originally Posted by DuckRyder
I would be seriously livid it they replaced my factory drain plug in my Honda with some bargain basement aftermarket garbage... Of course they wouldn't be changing the oil but what kind of moron would replace a perfectly good factory drain plug that didn't require it per the factory (which certainly "all" Hondas do not)...
It might have to do with reducing drain plug thread damage but I'm not really sure how. You would think the same bolt that was in there would do less damage than a brand new one, but maybe a mechanical engineer can explain that one. Especially old OEM v new cheap aftermarket.
It might have to do with liability or something. Maybe there really is less chance of damage when they use their impact to install the new drain plug?
I would be seriously livid it they replaced my factory drain plug in my Honda with some bargain basement aftermarket garbage... Of course they wouldn't be changing the oil but what kind of moron would replace a perfectly good factory drain plug that didn't require it per the factory (which certainly "all" Hondas do not)...
It might have to do with reducing drain plug thread damage but I'm not really sure how. You would think the same bolt that was in there would do less damage than a brand new one, but maybe a mechanical engineer can explain that one. Especially old OEM v new cheap aftermarket.
It might have to do with liability or something. Maybe there really is less chance of damage when they use their impact to install the new drain plug?
Crush washers are meant to be replaced at every oil change.
If you use regular washers, you can reuse them.
If you use regular washers, you can reuse them.
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I found the Hyundai part number (21513-23001). I will stop at the dealer tomorrow morning.
Fastest delivery I can get from Amazon Prime is (three days) Wednesday free shipping.
No, my new OEM Hyundai oil filter purchased from Walmart, did not have a washer inside the box. I checked all three boxes at Walmart. My NAPA Pro Select filter purchased from NAPA didn't have any washers inside either. Those are close to OEM and also made my Mann-Hummel.
I have several end-cap oil filter removal tools. I suspect one will fit the factory-installed OEM filter tightly and remove it...... eventually....lol. If not, I have bookmarked that Lisle 6300 filter removing tool.
Thank you folks for all your help.
Fastest delivery I can get from Amazon Prime is (three days) Wednesday free shipping.
No, my new OEM Hyundai oil filter purchased from Walmart, did not have a washer inside the box. I checked all three boxes at Walmart. My NAPA Pro Select filter purchased from NAPA didn't have any washers inside either. Those are close to OEM and also made my Mann-Hummel.
I have several end-cap oil filter removal tools. I suspect one will fit the factory-installed OEM filter tightly and remove it...... eventually....lol. If not, I have bookmarked that Lisle 6300 filter removing tool.
Thank you folks for all your help.
I've never changed one and have never had a leak in 40 plus years of oil changes. I guess the logic is that the washer crushes and conforms to any out of tolerance surfaces, like if the drain plug threads are at an angle....
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On older cars of mine several years ago, I switched to the magnetic drain bolt that include a blue nylon washer (Dorman). Worked great with a 6-point socket.
I switched to the Fumoto valves long ago after that and never looked back.
I switched to the Fumoto valves long ago after that and never looked back.
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I don't recall there being a crush washer on dad's 4.3L Astrovan, not sure why these things became necessary. Anyhow, I mailorder oil filters and they come with the crush washer already. I think I did buy a bag of washers once, separately, now I have more Toyota washers then I'll ever need (since the filters come with 'em).
I wonder if they are critical; most of the time the washer stays stuck to the oil pan until I knock it off. I wonder if that's "good enough" of a seal.
I wonder if they are critical; most of the time the washer stays stuck to the oil pan until I knock it off. I wonder if that's "good enough" of a seal.
Originally Posted by supton
I don't recall there being a crush washer on dad's 4.3L Astrovan, not sure why these things became necessary. Anyhow, I mailorder oil filters and they come with the crush washer already. I think I did buy a bag of washers once, separately, now I have more Toyota washers then I'll ever need (since the filters come with 'em).
I wonder if they are critical; most of the time the washer stays stuck to the oil pan until I knock it off. I wonder if that's "good enough" of a seal.
A lot of GMs came standard with an OE drain bolt with a captive silicone washer. Here's one:
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I don't recall there being a crush washer on dad's 4.3L Astrovan, not sure why these things became necessary. Anyhow, I mailorder oil filters and they come with the crush washer already. I think I did buy a bag of washers once, separately, now I have more Toyota washers then I'll ever need (since the filters come with 'em).
I wonder if they are critical; most of the time the washer stays stuck to the oil pan until I knock it off. I wonder if that's "good enough" of a seal.
A lot of GMs came standard with an OE drain bolt with a captive silicone washer. Here's one:
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