Originally Posted By: JTK
I've sat in a few Versi, but not driven one. Looks/feels like a decent car to me for ~$10K. I don't get people's expectations. $10K new hasn't bought you squat for the last what... 20 something years?
Joel
IDK, my 2000 Saturn SC2 was 12 grand new, it's about 60 times the car that the Fit, Aveo, Versa et. all is. I can go on and on about how great it is compared to other vehicles but it just seems that car quality is on a major downhill slope.
I've only purchased three new cars in my life. A Buick Century, a Crown Victoria, and a Nissan Sentra. At the time the Sentra was the cheapest car on the road but at least it came with a full sized spare, radio, A/C, floormats, etc. for under ten grand. It ran well for ten years, then threw a rod. That's about what I expected for a Japanese car. I got my money's worth out of it, but not like I have out of my Century and my Ford.
The Crown Vic was a mid year model and I got it fully loaded for 15 grand. The Fit we priced was right at 15 even; you're telling me that the Honda Fit is even remotely on par with a Crown Victoria? Same thing with the Century. When I got it they were just about giving them away, I just don't see quality cars like this anymore for a decent price.
Maybe I've just been spoiled but I think when you go to buy a new car it should have a radio, floor mats/carpet, a spare tire, an a/c (not a necessity for some but here in the SE an absolute must), and a side mirror. True, the Versa is the cheapest car on the road when you deduct for all these things that are STANDARD on most vehicles today, you'll find that it's not such a great deal after all. So meanwhile some guy like me is driving around in a Grand Marquis with all the amenities and I payed the same price you payed for your glued together Versa that will be lucky to surpass the ten year mark. (Yeah I know it's two completely different vehicles but dang, my neighbor just picked up a Marquis for less than 15 large, and I see people talking about spending fourteen five on a Fit?)
My point is that you shouldn't have to sacrifice quality in the price tag. All the cost cutting that's going on right now is a sore indicator that we, as Americans, have told the auto makers that we are willing to buy absolute garbage, just so long as the price tag reflects that. Ten grand should still get you floor mats, a spare, and a side mirror is all I'm sayin'. And it shouldn't look like an inebriated child pieced together your interior from seven different colors of plastic and put it all together with play-dough.
I've sat in a few Versi, but not driven one. Looks/feels like a decent car to me for ~$10K. I don't get people's expectations. $10K new hasn't bought you squat for the last what... 20 something years?
Joel
IDK, my 2000 Saturn SC2 was 12 grand new, it's about 60 times the car that the Fit, Aveo, Versa et. all is. I can go on and on about how great it is compared to other vehicles but it just seems that car quality is on a major downhill slope.
I've only purchased three new cars in my life. A Buick Century, a Crown Victoria, and a Nissan Sentra. At the time the Sentra was the cheapest car on the road but at least it came with a full sized spare, radio, A/C, floormats, etc. for under ten grand. It ran well for ten years, then threw a rod. That's about what I expected for a Japanese car. I got my money's worth out of it, but not like I have out of my Century and my Ford.
The Crown Vic was a mid year model and I got it fully loaded for 15 grand. The Fit we priced was right at 15 even; you're telling me that the Honda Fit is even remotely on par with a Crown Victoria? Same thing with the Century. When I got it they were just about giving them away, I just don't see quality cars like this anymore for a decent price.
Maybe I've just been spoiled but I think when you go to buy a new car it should have a radio, floor mats/carpet, a spare tire, an a/c (not a necessity for some but here in the SE an absolute must), and a side mirror. True, the Versa is the cheapest car on the road when you deduct for all these things that are STANDARD on most vehicles today, you'll find that it's not such a great deal after all. So meanwhile some guy like me is driving around in a Grand Marquis with all the amenities and I payed the same price you payed for your glued together Versa that will be lucky to surpass the ten year mark. (Yeah I know it's two completely different vehicles but dang, my neighbor just picked up a Marquis for less than 15 large, and I see people talking about spending fourteen five on a Fit?)
My point is that you shouldn't have to sacrifice quality in the price tag. All the cost cutting that's going on right now is a sore indicator that we, as Americans, have told the auto makers that we are willing to buy absolute garbage, just so long as the price tag reflects that. Ten grand should still get you floor mats, a spare, and a side mirror is all I'm sayin'. And it shouldn't look like an inebriated child pieced together your interior from seven different colors of plastic and put it all together with play-dough.
