NHTSA investigating door fires in some Toyotas

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: Artem
Seems like they are just TRYING to find ANY reason to get on Toyota's back. I honestly don't know why.

It's like everyone wants to make the Japanese look bad or something.


I agree.
Personal Opinion: I think it's because they are trying to make people go back to buying american (domestic) cars. They are trying so hard to sell those domestic cars, while Japanese car's are flying off the lot left and right.

I believe that is one part of many.

Another reason I think people are taking aim at Toyota is because people want to take down those who are at the top.

 

[mrsilv04]

Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Six reported fires out of 830,000 vehicles?

I love both my Fords, but let's keep this real. First thing that came up when I googled Ford suv fire:

" . . . about 4.5 million vehicles equipped with a faulty cruise-control switch linked to at least 550 vehicle fires nationwide, and the destruction of many homes and other properties. Ford has now recalled more than 14 million vehicles in eight separate recalls over a 10-year period because of the problem."

http://www.switchfires.com/


Don't do that... you'll offend the Ford owners. And heaven forbid *THAT* ever should happen...

 

[cchase]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: Artem
Seems like they are just TRYING to find ANY reason to get on Toyota's back. I honestly don't know why.

It's like everyone wants to make the Japanese look bad or something.


I agree.
Personal Opinion: I think it's because they are trying to make people go back to buying american (domestic) cars. They are trying so hard to sell those domestic cars, while Japanese car's are flying off the lot left and right.


What are the sales figures looking like? Japanese cars fly off the lots and American cars don't? Last time I looked, they were fairly even. Just a thought.

I can't believe that the NHTSA randomly comes up with a window switch as being the root cause of the problem if they have no idea and don't know why the fires are starting. There's a reason they've zoned in on the switch, it's not a shot in the dark.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Does the NHTSA really have nothing better to investigate? There's *only* been 6 fires...lol Compared to the 500 some fires started in other Ford vehicles, which were actually due to faulty equipment. For all we know, these 6 fires have nothing to do with the car, and are all due to the driver/passenger(s).
I guess we will just have to wait and see what they come up with.


Those were fires over a time span of more than a DECADE. Lets please add some perspective here.

I'm not singling out or "blaming" Toyota here. Defects and recalls happen, it is a fact of life with a mass produced item.

Honda had ignition switch fires as well. Ford had foglight switch fires on the Fox body cars. GM had harness fires on the Grand Prix and whatever other cars shared that chassis.

They've all had fire issues

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Six reported fires out of 830,000 vehicles?

I love both my Fords, but let's keep this real. First thing that came up when I googled Ford suv fire:

" . . . about 4.5 million vehicles equipped with a faulty cruise-control switch linked to at least 550 vehicle fires nationwide, and the destruction of many homes and other properties. Ford has now recalled more than 14 million vehicles in eight separate recalls over a 10-year period because of the problem."

http://www.switchfires.com/


No, but I'm pretty sure Toyota has a much higher number of failing frames, which is just as dangerous.

It is all relative.


Toyota is buying those trucks back, at more value than KBB. Toyota stands behind their products. Another example, is when Toyota extended the warranty on the 1MZ-FE motor due to sludge.


After a class-action lawsuit.

Viewing Toyota's history through some rose coloured glasses are we?

 

[whip]

I don't think there's a bias. if there's more than 2 fires from the same thing, I think there should be an investigation to find out if it's the design or the operator.

 

[hypervish]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: hypervish
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Six reported fires out of 830,000 vehicles?

I love both my Fords, but let's keep this real. First thing that came up when I googled Ford suv fire:

" . . . about 4.5 million vehicles equipped with a faulty cruise-control switch linked to at least 550 vehicle fires nationwide, and the destruction of many homes and other properties. Ford has now recalled more than 14 million vehicles in eight separate recalls over a 10-year period because of the problem."

http://www.switchfires.com/


No, but I'm pretty sure Toyota has a much higher number of failing frames, which is just as dangerous.

It is all relative.


Toyota is buying those trucks back, at more value than KBB. Toyota stands behind their products. Another example, is when Toyota extended the warranty on the 1MZ-FE motor due to sludge.


After a class-action lawsuit.

Viewing Toyota's history through some rose coloured glasses are we?


Your point?

The lawsuit brought the issue to Toyota, and they then realized this was a wide-spread issue and that they need to stand behind their product. They didn't simply throw the case out the window, and not help the customers. It's called a Goodwill gesture.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish

Your point?

The lawsuit brought the issue to Toyota, and they then realized this was a wide-spread issue and that they need to stand behind their product. They didn't simply throw the case out the window, and not help the customers. It's called a Goodwill gesture.


Come on man, you really think that the people that ganged together to sue Toyota didn't try to get their issues resolved through normal channels first?

My point is that Toyota isn't some golden child of corporate perfection. They are a car company, just like all the other car companies, and car companies make mistakes. Including Toyota.

Trying to pass it off as "good will" after you've been sued is nothing but a publicity stunt to try and save face.

 

[hypervish]

I'm not saying that Toyota is perfect. No one is... Every company makes mistakes, I agree. And, Toyota has, Ford has, Honda has, BMW has, etc.
It's just the fact that when anything goes wrong with Toyota or Honda, people love to make ridiculous remarks.

Back on point, I'm interested to see what the NHTSA comes up with. And, whatever it is, I hope Toyota get's it resolved right away (if they find something wrong).

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: hypervish
I'm not saying that Toyota is perfect. No one is... Every company makes mistakes, I agree. And, Toyota has, Ford has, Honda has, BMW has, etc.
It's just the fact that when anything goes wrong with Toyota or Honda, people love to make ridiculous remarks.

Back on point, I'm interested to see what the NHTSA comes up with. And, whatever it is, I hope Toyota get's it resolved right away (if they find something wrong).


I agree completely with your last point. I think that's what any of us want to see when our favourite car maker(s) are under the microscope by the NHTSA.

Now, in that vein, it seems that your first remark regarding Toyota or Honda could be made for any brand. I saw this same sentiment stated in a GM thread earlier today as to how GM always gets singled out. If you pay attention long enough you'll notice the same cry come from every camp. Nobody likes to see their brand being criticized or "singled out".