NGK Spark Plugs Review

[LeakySeals]

I agree don't like going to the dealer for T-IV, red coolant, the cat converter, it goes on and on. One time I was there for fluid and asked why I kept losing coils. Those things are [censored] expensive. First thing he asked was if I was using Iridium plugs and something about low voltage. Nope, previous owner put the auto parts "it fits" plugs on. If your scion doesn't require Iridiums, good for you.

 

[Robenstein]

Well NGK says I need laser platinums as OE replacements, Denso says I need Iridiums, but Toyota installed NGK iridiums.

Its a curious case for my car. I just put platinums in.

 

[LeakySeals]

@Robenstein I just researched the Scion. The Scion uses some Toyota parts but is a different animal. Why its not listed under Toyota as a model when you look for parts. You dont use the same OE plug as I do.

 

[Robenstein]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
@Robenstein I just researched the Scion. The Scion uses some Toyota parts but is a different animal. Why its not listed under Toyota as a model when you look for parts. You dont use the same OE plug as I do.


I buy my Scion parts at a non Scion dealership that sells just Ford and Toyota. My 2.4 engine says Toyota on the engine cover and is pretty much the same engine that is in the Camry of the same year, just tuned more for performance.

 

[yaris0128]

NGK

I just swapped the old NGK's in my Civic to some new V-Power's. They didnt look TOO bad. Considering I havnet changed them since owning the car 2 years ago and not knowing how long they were in there before that. But its running very well, very pleased and the $10 I paid for the box of 4 was worth it. Ill drop some more of these V-Power's in my del sol here shortly. Ive cheaped out and got Autolite for an 87 Mustang GT and that was a mistake. Robbed a lot of power. The old spark plugs were disgusting and I dont know how it ran at all with them but the car kinda sucked with the Autolites. Wasnt happy. But I paid $1.99 each and I didnt KNOW at the time.

 

[mechtech2]

So the bordering on gimicky V powers are better than the time tested and very good Autolites?
Not installer error? Maybe a cracked plug internally from being dropped at the store?

 

[SLCraig]

NGK is the top brand out there. They are all I use on all my last few cars.

 

[LeakySeals]

Originally Posted By: Quest
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Use platinum, copper, vpower or any other cheaper plug on a toyota and they will run horrible. would Assume they would be a good choice for others.


LOL! Wondering where the hexk you get that info from? personal(subjective) observations? drive by gossip?

IMHO cars that spec'ed for iridium can be swapped with platinum and vise-versa provided that you change your platinums out more frequently (platinum can go up to 60kmiles; iridium can go up to 100kmiles).


The Toyota service tech told me. I kept losing coils, the engine idled horribly, so I went to them. They told me using plugs that draw more voltage to spark can fry the coils. I did not know Iridiums draw less voltage. Toyota spent the time to put a sticker on the engine, maybe as a warning, who knows. You arrogantly mock me for trying to help people, then humbly provide the same drive by opinion that you mocked me for a paragraph later. Thanks alot.

 

[Vikas]

LeakySeals:-

Which specific plugs were you using? Which specific plugs were called by the manufacturer?

By the way, platinum plugs are actually MORE expensive than iridium (at least for the NGK)

- Vikas

 

[Quest]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
They told me using plugs that draw more voltage to spark can fry the coils. I did not know Iridiums draw less voltage. Toyota spent the time to put a sticker on the engine, maybe as a warning, who knows. You arrogantly mock me for trying to help people, then humbly provide the same drive by opinion that you mocked me for a paragraph later. Thanks alot.


LOL! Never heard of that before (plugs that draw more voltage can fry coils?!!~) Any plugs, from fresh copper cores to platinums, etc. so long as there's a sharp edge during high tension to create the much needed ionisation to break down the air (or gas)to arc over, that's what we called a spark and the job of arcing/sparking is complete.

Been servicing transistorised ignition systems since the early 90s, including capacitive discharge systems. Never in my life have I heard such lame/unsubstantiated explanation.

Don't believe me? Well, here's the deal: try a 1ZZFE engine (circa 2000 corolla 1.8L 4cyl) with individual coils over spark plugs: factory plugs came along with these engines are multi-ground copper cores (Denso K16TR11) and not platinums or iridiums.

So, in that case: with these copper core (multi-grounds) factory equipped denso plugs gonna burn coils after they roll off the manufacturing plant?

(**wanna prove it? go find a factory owners manual or confirm with any honourable Toy service dept to confirm that**)


Q.

p.s. I'm not going against you for your helpfulness, but the mal-informed Toy tech that gave you that Bee-Ash in the first place.