New Pure 1 info, also PP & Maxlife

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I called the Purolator filter hotline a few days ago (12/2005) and found they have new test data for the Pure One Oil filter verses when I called them about six months ago (6/2005). I did not ask why there is a change (new test method or new filter design).

Multi pass efficiency test (SAE J1858)

____________________10 micron_____15 micron_____20 micron_____30 micron_____40 micron
Pure One (12/2005)_____93.50%______99.60%______99.90%_______99.99%
Pure One (6/2005)______85%**_______96%________98%
Premium Plus (12/2005)__60%_____________________85%_________96%_________98%
Premium Plus (6/2005)___60%_____________________85%_________96%

(**Actually the old Pure One 10 micron rating of 85% for came from an old web page which Purolator no longer displays).

Note: I also have some old Pure One filters still in the box which advertise an efficiency of only 96%. Copywrite on box is dated 1996. Newer boxes Copywrited 2002 and 2004 both list a filtering efficiency of 98%. I wonder if even newer boxes will reflect the new higher efficiency data given over the phone.

Regarding the Premium Plus filters, the (12/2005) info is same as (6/2005) with the additon of the 40 micron rating.

Regarding Valvoline Maxlife; They would not give micron ratings, but said Maxlife is "High Capacity - Low Efficiency" verses the Pure One and Premium Plus which are "High Efficiency - Low Capacity" filters. They confirmed that the Maxlife is even less efficient than the Premium Plus filter, but Maxlife is designed to "remove more sludge" (as is advertised on the box).

They would not give me efficiency on the Motorcraft Filter due to their proprietary agreement with Motorcraft.

Originally I was hoping the Maxlife VF8A filter was essentially a Pure One PL30001 with a threaded end bypass valve.
So, I opened up a new Maxlife filter to see if the media was Pure One or Premium Plus.
Visual inspection indicated the media was of similar thickness to the P1 but color was somewhat whiter near the inner area of the pleats. (The P1 element color is amber throughout.)
I then called Purolator to ask them and recieved the info listed above. I could have called them first and saved $6. Live and hopefully learn.

FYI: Here are the measurements for the Maxlife filter I cut open:
Filter: VF8A
Pleat Depth: 0.75"
Number of pleats: 68
Pleat Width: 3.75"
Bypass Location: Threaded end

This appears to have even more pleats and filter area than the Pure One ( virgin filter info ). Too bad it doesn't have the same filtering media.
I'll stick with the Pure One for now.
 
Thank you for the new Info. I have always used Pure 1 for all my changes(Prob gonna switch soon). The better cleaning is good news, Except I always bought into the Rumors of it being restrictive. Now with the higher Efficiency im sure their will be more debates on the restrictiveness of the filter.. Thanks again!!
 
I think the Pure 1 is quite restrictive too. Recently when I used the recommended size on my car with thicker (5w-50) oil, I noticed valve clatter for several minutes in the morning until engine warmed up (though wear numbers looked excellent). On my current oil interval I'm using an oversize Pure 1 to make up for this. No more valve clatter as I'm guessing the hydraulic lifters are getting plenty of oil during cold start up now.
 
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They confirmed that the Maxlife is even less efficient than the Premium Plus filter, but Maxlife is designed to "remove more sludge" (as is advertised on the box).

Do I understand then that the Maxlife, being less efficient, would likely flo freer than the Premium Plus and Pure One?
 
On cold start up all the oil the positive displacement oil pump can put out is going to the engine, wither thru the oil filter or bypassing the oiul filter. Either way all the oil volume is going to the engine.
 
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Do I understand then that the Maxlife, being less efficient, would likely flo freer than the Premium Plus and Pure One?

TallPaul, That's my assumption from the tech's verbage, but I don't know for sure.
 
Yeah, I would have thought it would be a more restrictive filter to pick up all that sludge. Oh well. I actually prefer the less restrictive for less bypass time. And it has the threaded end bypass too. Decent filter, but I think I will stick with Wix now.
 
A positive displacement pump will 'slip' more with resistance applied after it. A load on said pump will directly affect its efficiency and the volume that it can pump. The same load can also increase wear on the pump which will shorten its life and reduce its efficiency.
And, there is the possibility that the pump could bypass earlier reducing the flow volume.
There is more to the filter/pump then just flow. PSI could also suffer since a restrictive filter could be the "pinch" in an oiling circuit.
Also, it takes power to pump oil. Why suffer miniscule MPG/HP loss to overly restrictive boutique filtration?

I am not saying that I am using the cheapest imported filter that is always being bypassed. But, I too suffered weay too much startup clatter with various 'boutique filters'. They weren't any better that that 'orange' can that everyone avoids.

My new favorites are Wix(napagold) or Motorcraft if the PN is available. No startup or running noises when cold, good filtration, quick oil idiot life off after starting, and above all, MADE IN THE..... without the high cost of 'boutique' markups.

Oh yeah, if visual is your goal. I think that the Pureone has the best looking 'paint job'. It sure is purty
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I've been running a PureONE PL34631 on my new stroker 383 I built last year. I run a full-flow high volume setup without a bypass and have never noticed any delay in pressure at startup, and always maintain a good 65-70psi while my foot is in it. So I don't think you guys with regular engines have much to worry about when it comes to flow.

Not caring for much dirt to get through though, I'm thinking about switching over to a WIX 57202 which is a 8 micron filter. I run that filter on my Duramax, and get them for $5.00 a piece.

I ran an oil analysis on my oil at work yesterday and couldn't believe the amount of crap in the 10-22 micron range that the filter is letting through.

Remember, some peoples hair on their head is only 37 microns thick.
 
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How will you know the difference between the new pure one's?

speedtc, I called the filter hotline again and was put in touch with an engineer. My impression from our conversation was that there is little difference between the old and new Pure One oil filter media except that the new media is colored blue. I asked if the the blue color would be visible by looking looking closely into the filter center tube. He wasn't sure but thought it might be possible to detect. He wasn't sure if the box would reflect the new efficiency rating since that is a marketing decision. The new efficiency test was done in the fall of 2005.
 
im pretty satisfied with the pure one. though i am considering switching back to oem nissan filters for my 200sx sinse the pure one seems to lack that anti drain back valve thingie
 
So here we have filter ratings for PureOnes, which I can easily get off the shelf down the road (PL14670's). Mann filters on the other hand (W917), I need to place an order and even though people seem to speak highly of them (they do look and feel well constructed inside and out), but its ratings are unknown - atleast to me.

Does anyone know the filter ratings for Manns?

Thanks for the info y'all.
 
Given this information, which would you choose to use in the following applications:

a) Extreme cold

b) Extreme heat

c) An Auto-Rx treatment


Under "normal" conditions, how would your choice differ, if at all, based upon the viscosity of your oil?
 
Gary Allan has done some experiments that seem to show no restriction with any brand of filter over another.
Somebody go bother him--I mean ask him about it, I've forgotten where the thread is.

I'll just continue running Napa Gold for a while.
 
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