Here's another universal super long-life antifreeze that claims to last up to 15 years / 350,000 miles.
https://www.owi.com/retail/brands/p...t/all-makes-all-models-coolant/peak-ecoshield
Thoughts?
New PEAK EcoShield 15yr / 350,000mi universal antifreeze
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Here's another universal super long-life antifreeze that claims to last up to 15 years / 350,000 miles.
https://www.owi.com/retail/brands/p...t/all-makes-all-models-coolant/peak-ecoshield
Thoughts?
What about this Peak for 15 years 400,000 miles?
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I think it's all marketing, there is probably little to no difference in those formulations. 300k, 350k, 400k... Just Peak and Prestone trying to "one up" each other on time/miles. They know the typical user will never reach those miles without a cooling system repair that requires a top off to refesh the system, if not a full drain/refill. That claim of 95% renewable ingredients applies to really any coolant, because any ethylene glycol coolant can be potentially recycled. It's just "feel good" marketing that you're buying something to help the environment. Same thing with these claims of "cleans and prevents corrosion," any quality coolant does that including the cheap house brands like Supertech and Napa 1EXT.
Kind of reminds me of the FRS/GMRS walkie talkies. When those things first came out in the 1990s, companies mentioned realistic range approximations like 2 miles. I remember this on a Motorola Talkabout set I bought, one of the first ones ever made. Somehow over the 2000s, the various manufacturers all started using the unrealistic, exaggerated ranges like 20 miles, 30 miles, 35 miles, etc. Absolute perfect conditions range (like mountain peak to mountain peak), but nothing the typical user will see in day to day use in standard environments.
Kind of reminds me of the FRS/GMRS walkie talkies. When those things first came out in the 1990s, companies mentioned realistic range approximations like 2 miles. I remember this on a Motorola Talkabout set I bought, one of the first ones ever made. Somehow over the 2000s, the various manufacturers all started using the unrealistic, exaggerated ranges like 20 miles, 30 miles, 35 miles, etc. Absolute perfect conditions range (like mountain peak to mountain peak), but nothing the typical user will see in day to day use in standard environments.
SDS lists only Ethylene Glycol and water. Does that mean it does not have 2-EHA - because they have to list if it does?The 10x is better, since the older long life has 2-EHA in it, and 10x doesn't
Probably fine, as long as the same fluid is used when replacing a hose or water pump. I only use OEM coolant. Drain and fill every 100-150k. 2-3x during its lifespan. Not bad.
It's propylene glycol, only available in 50/50 premix, and only available at Walmart.
They used to offer a propylene glycol coolant under the name Sierra
They used to offer a propylene glycol coolant under the name Sierra
When 10X first intro'd some years ago now, emailed Peak/Old World to confirm all info and where it would be sold. It's a LL OAT AF with no 2eha as spec sheet says.* 'Imo', it's basically a much more readily available, longer service interval, lower priced version of a bitog fav, Peak Global Lifetime. As for SDS, ones I've seen show 2eha if it's used as inhibitor, e.g. Peak LL. In 10X case spec sheet confirms no 2eha used.
https://asset-prod1a-use.productmar...age/2482_260cb4ed-1a42-4ab8-a73b-a86e2384b23d
As for topic, looks like one these "Eco-friendly" AFs like Low Tox and Sierra. The distinction "Peak says" is the propylene glycol used is bio-based vs petroleum based for others. That it's only available as a premix, not a strong selling point when compared to others like Sierra that offer full strength.
Old school green vs new long life.
Old green provides immediate protection. Yes it doesn't last as long protection wise, 1-2 years.
New long life coolants protect much slower. Like a slow release pain killer like Advil. This is how these new coolants provide longer protection periods. So which is better?
Old green provides immediate protection. Yes it doesn't last as long protection wise, 1-2 years.
New long life coolants protect much slower. Like a slow release pain killer like Advil. This is how these new coolants provide longer protection periods. So which is better?
The 10x is better, since the older long life has 2-EHA in it, and 10x doesn't
I believe that PEAK/Old World Industries has revamped their antifreeze product line where the old PEAK 10X (2-EHA free) coolant is no discontinued. Speculation is that the new EcoShield coolant is repackaged 10X coolant since it is free of 2-EHA. The "Eco" label appears to be marketing claiming the active ingredient (1,3 propanediol) is obtained from 100% renewable resources. The new "10+" (not "10X") packaged coolant is a re-label of the older all makes, all models PEAK coolant which does contain 2-EHA. Here is the previous BITOG thread posted by @nthach concerning the new PEAK lineup.
Exactly, that's how it looks to me too. The older LL yellow label has "always" used 2eha, so nothing new there.
As for what's replacing what. Looks 'to me' like new Titanium is replacing 10X. At least, that's the AF 'I' would look to purchase once "10X" is sold out.
I did email OWI - they did confirm EcoShield has a small amount of phosphate in it. Not as much as a Japanese pHOAT but it counts still.
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