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$21 flat rate USPS box works great for the return shipping and you can chuck your wipers in there. It's a great deal.
I don't see how this is anymore hassle than doing the rebates etc. and taking your oil to recycle it. I drain the oil into my tank thing, then fill the bottles up, pack it up, and mail it. $21 shipping for a ~$70 kit (for my car) is a good deal 3-4x a year plus you toss in plugs, filters, wipers, whatever that you also get from there.
Combining returns is great.
I just had a return processed for engine, trans, and diff fluid swaps, plus engine and trans filters, and trans and diff plugs. >$400 back on my credit card AFTER shipping back to them via FedEx.
using the ecolite5w30 and thinking of trying the x clean next,even tho my cx5 calls for a sn oil one of the experts in this forum recommended me to go for the x clean.
always loved motul since my 300v days with my 550whp sti and its a third of the price then m1 here so its a no brainer.
always loved motul since my 300v days with my 550whp sti and its a third of the price then m1 here so its a no brainer.
How do they make money?
I don't know, but evidently they are, because they've only expanded since they started doing this.
A few educated guesses:
1. Only a minority of their customers will actually return enough product to net a loss for the company
2. They're buying a ton of loyalty (e.g. I will barely even look at other vendors if FCP Euro carries what I want)
3. Most of the products they sell will last longer than most people own their cars
4. The returns program (and the loyalty it buys) increases their volume, which lets them get better wholesale prices
Plus, a lot of people like shopping there just because it's a reliable vendor of good products and has excellent customer service. They don't even take advantage of the guarantee; they just like the store.
Yep - also, you go on to your get your oil change kit and oh...let me get XYZ...it clearly works out.
Just picked up another 8 jugs of Motul. Among them, was a couple jugs of Xcess gen2 5w-40. Me being me, I have to do a VOA to compare to the original xcess. I'll keep everyone posted.
Originally Posted by NuttCase
Originally Posted by edyvw
First of all, I did not look before carefully into new X-Clean+ line which is VW504.00/507.00, BMW LL04, MB229.51, although it is out some time. What is interesting about this is KV100 is 11.7, but HTHS is very solid 3.6.
The 8100 X-clean+ has indeed been out for a while, at least 7 years.
I didn't catch the point about the KV100 / HTHS combination. All of the 5W30 C3 / VW504 oils will have HTHS >= 3.5 and many have KV100 in the high 11s. Elf, Motul, Total and Shell are all in the 11.7 - 12.2 range.
X-clean+ currently in the Audi and will probably change in the summer to Shell or Petronas. I wasn't planning on a UOA as the miles will be less than 2000 (changing on time and not mileage). I could be persuaded though if its really of interest to the community.
Most 5W30 ACEA A3/B3 B4 and C3 oils have HTHS 3.5. Some time before Castrol Edge 0W30 (A3) and Mobil1 ESP Formula (C3) had HTHS 3.58. So HTHS of 3.6 with KV100 at 11.9 is really good result. Edge 0W30 and Mobil1 ESP Formula had KV100 at 12.2.
So the Motul 5W30 X-clean plus is out and Gulf GX 5W-30 is in the Audi. As I mentioned earlier in this thread I had the X-Clean oil tested - more of a personal interest than any real need for it. See recent post X-Clean UOA
Any update here? I'd love to see how the X-Cess Gen2 performs. I'm stuck between that and the Mobil 1 European Formula 0W-40.
Thanks!
Charlie
Thanks!
Charlie
Glad you bumped this up. I have a VOA out for Motul X-Cess Gen2 5W40. Awaiting results. I will perform a UOA on the A90 Supra when it is time (suggestions on mileage welcome).
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ok, thanks..glad you did it..personally i change oils from 8.000 -10.000 km or what comes first in 6 months.i think its 7000miles?
well here in europe we still cant't find it easily, and its one of their oils that i would like to try most!
well here in europe we still cant't find it easily, and its one of their oils that i would like to try most!
i am actually thinking of getting lukoil this time. main reason being they sell straight from their website (a lot of counterfeits here. especially if you buy online)
for my diesel astra, lukoil recommends this dexos2 oil.
how does it compare to Motul 8100 X-clean EFE 5W-30?
for my diesel astra, lukoil recommends this dexos2 oil.
how does it compare to Motul 8100 X-clean EFE 5W-30?
The Lukoil doesn't carry nearly as many approvals. Impossible to say beyond that. But if it were my car, there's no question I would take the Motul, even if it were difficult to get genuine oil.
Have you tried contacting Motul and asking for a reputable supplier in TR?
sure, there are official suppliers here (not online retailers).
their markup is insane. called couple of them. +80% than the price online.
guess i'll cough up. better than living in paranoia.
My VOA for Motul X-Cess 5W40 Gen 2:
Motul 8100 X-CESS 5W40 GEN 2
Approvals: BMW LONG LIFE-01 MB-APPROVAL 229.5 / 226.5 PORSCHE A40 RENAULT RN0710 - RN0700 VW 502 00 – 505 00 CHRYSLER MS-12991 FIAT 9.55535-H2, FIAT 9.55535-M2, FIAT 9.55535-N2, FIAT 9.55535-Z2 GM-OPEL LL B-025 (DIESEL) PSA B71 2296 News release...
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