New Mobil 1 Advanced Clean
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What does it stay behind the Triple Action Formula +?
Triple Action Formula + = "Power"
Most likely the benefit of better viscosity stability.https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/mobil-1-triple-action-formula
Mobil used to put out a lot of testing information they did on Mobil 1. It seems like they stopped and really have no interest in doing that anymore. Kinda just riding on their name. Definitely a great oil and still my favorite synthetic brand overall.
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Let’s trust what Mobil is putting out I’m sure this will be a great oil . But let’s wait for the new labels and formulations Castrol and Pennzoil puts out
I'm confident that this new oil is going to be good. Is it truly an Valvoline Restore and Protect competitor? We don't know. Even if it's not, that doesn't mean that this oil is a failure. Maybe us oil geeks are expecting too much based on the name? It would be nice to have another affordable oil with the Valvoline Restore and Protect cleaning ability, but we don't even know if that's Mobil's attempt at this point.
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I think Castrol will be last to market on a Valvoline Restore and Protect competitor among all of the major players. They’re for sale and I doubt they’re allocating large R&D funding into extending their lineup like that.
In hand now! VOA kit ordered. QR code goes to generic Mobil 1 page.
100% sludge removal based on Sequence VH Rocker Cover sludge test.
For what it’s worth it doesn’t have that fruity ESP 0W-30 smell or the gear oil smell of Valvoline Restore and Protect.
100% sludge removal based on Sequence VH Rocker Cover sludge test.
For what it’s worth it doesn’t have that fruity ESP 0W-30 smell or the gear oil smell of Valvoline Restore and Protect.
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Does not Mobil 1 Extended Performance make a similar claim on the back?
I do have Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30, so I will do the fruity smell test! I also have some Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 so I will smell again, I also have some Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 so I will do the smell thing again.
I do have 2 gallons of the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore Gen 1 10W-30 and it does have a fruity smell.
I know I will get some flak for this, but the HPL CK-4 10W-40 that I put in my Riding Lawn Mower did have a distinct well maybe sweat smell. When we do an oil change, are we now smelling oil and reporting back?
Why do you think Mobil wants to compete with Valvoline Restore and Protect? They might have (and I'm sure of that) more sales even without a product matching/competing Valvoline Restore and Protect.
Just because their marketing team put Clean on the label it doesn't mean anything. Any synthetic oil has more or less some cleaning abilities.
I was sure this oil is their main line (aka vanilla) because of the blue color which was trade mark of that series. Also they needed to add 0W-20 grade to thatvline because the other were AFE (mostly marketed towards hybrids and Jap vehicles), EP, ESP, but missing just a regular 0W-20 as any other brand.
Just because their marketing team put Clean on the label it doesn't mean anything. Any synthetic oil has more or less some cleaning abilities.
I was sure this oil is their main line (aka vanilla) because of the blue color which was trade mark of that series. Also they needed to add 0W-20 grade to thatvline because the other were AFE (mostly marketed towards hybrids and Jap vehicles), EP, ESP, but missing just a regular 0W-20 as any other brand.
Let's realize something with synthetic oil's out on the market today, they will keep an engine clean, not really doing any cleaning to a certain extent. What is interesting with Valvoline Restore and Protect is that they seem to be backing up there marketing claims, at least on this Forum.
I don't think companies going to change their formulating philosophy because of Valvoline Restore and Protect. I think they'll continue to make oils that hold up over extended drains and prevent deposits as much as possible. I think Valvoline Restore and Protect will remain unique for a while. I had originally though this new Mobil 1 was going to Mobil's answer to Valvoline Restore and Protect but it isn't. It's just their latest formulation for SQ/GF-7.
The only claims as per print on the very plain looking bottle:
- cleans engine in 1 OCI - whatever it means in degrees of cleaning as some cleaning falls into that claim
- prevents sludge formation - again, no specifics and any synthetic oil offers that too.
So, I see no specific claims or promises beyond very vague ones.
- cleans engine in 1 OCI - whatever it means in degrees of cleaning as some cleaning falls into that claim
- prevents sludge formation - again, no specifics and any synthetic oil offers that too.
So, I see no specific claims or promises beyond very vague ones.
Most likely. I do wonder where in the Mobil 1 portfolio this falls? The name “Advanced Clean” doesn’t seem to be a coincidence, IMO. I doubt this name exists if Valvoline Restore and Protect does not.
I dont even see a date code with revision number at all
Looks to me like the new Mobil 1 Advanced Clean is a close relative / rebranding of Mobil 1 Extended Performance … For my interest level , I judge any new Mobil 1 oil against my current favorite Mobil 1 oil - which is 0W30 ESP . I’m currently out of oil for my next oil change and will continue buying Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W30 because it specifically cleans pistons and ring packs . Until any new oil specifically states or shows pictures of cleaning pistons and rings - I’m just not enticed enough to change oil brands away from Valvoline Restore and Protect for my Hyundai / Kia 4K mile OCI’s. Also the fact that Valvoline Restore and Protect does not try to be a long drain oil makes me believe I’m not throwing money away on shorter OCI’s by the 4K mile OCI mark . Of course , I’ll be watching posts on Mobil 1 Advanced Clean as well as Mobil 1 ESP 0W30 ESP for any new updates that are interesting .
Well said.
Right. I'm not questioning the Valvoline Restore and Protect claims and results of what I've seen on the Net until now. I'm just saying that I think Mobil 1 Advanced Clean is rebranding of Mobil main oil series and not something new that directly competes with Valvoline Restore and Protect.
I'm glad Valvoline backs up their marketing claims with results because I'm strong disbeliever of any marketing claims. I don't understand how people still believe everything they see and read on a label - for example this filter filters 98.9% at that microns, but the other filter 95.6% at other microns - that is laughable the least.
Mobil marketing team was looking at the Valvoline product line and said - "Ahaaa, Advanced and Valvoline Restore and Protect... - We are ready - Advanced Clean."
Coca Cola still claims Classic on their cans and bottles - however the recipe is not the Classic one anymore because the classic recipe was with sugar and the all current Cokes (and other Coke products) are with high fructose corn syrup. People born in the 90s and after don't have an idea what the real Classic Coke tastes like. Unless they get the Mexican one in a glass bottle, which is still made with sugar.
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Mobil has said "Cleans your engine in one oil change" before so that part is not new.
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