New Honda Accord Confusion...

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Many people I know consider changing their oil a chore!




You said it right there! With my way of thinking, pulling weeds is a chore; changing oil is a labor of love.
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As of today, I consider oil to be a high-tech marvel that does a spectacular job of protecting the engine, but I also consider it to be expendable; sort of like your favorite high-tech disposable razor.
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I've always been a 3K OCI guy regardless...




I go by a combination of time, dipstick color, and mileage to arrive at my OCI.




Dipstick color doesn't mean much. To my new school way of thinking, 3000 miles is way too often to change an oil.
 
On my 06 Civic, the use of Amsoil 0w-20 has made a slight difference in the length of the MMS OCIs. My guess has to be that it is mostly due to oil temps?

I was pulling around 6500 miles at 15% on Pennzoil dino. Now that I'm on my first round of ASM and an EAO filter, I just rolled over 4,000 miles and still have 60% oil life left. I ran the ASM all summer and now into the fall.

Is there any way that syn could cause engine temps to run slightly lower and this could lengthen the MMS OCIs? I can't think of any other reason than that?

I also switched out the Z1 for the Amsoil ATF. This Amsoil combo gained me about 1 to 2 MPG average over Pennzoil and Z1!
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Many people I know consider changing their oil a chore!




You said it right there! With my way of thinking, pulling weeds is a chore; changing oil is a labor of love.
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As of today, I consider oil to be a high-tech marvel that does a spectacular job of protecting the engine, but I also consider it to be expendable; sort of like your favorite high-tech disposable razor.
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I'm right there with you! I like changing oil on my car. It's part of the "bonding" if you will.. Like I said... most people change there oil when they have to... or they actually think about doing it. Why do all the Jiffy lube type places survive? Because people just don't want to know anything about their cars and don't want to start!

Gas her up and Go! Sad but true! I know people that don't even open their hood! I laugh when I hear about their car problems.
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Many people I know consider changing their oil a chore!




You said it right there! With my way of thinking, pulling weeds is a chore; changing oil is a labor of love.
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As of today, I consider oil to be a high-tech marvel that does a spectacular job of protecting the engine, but I also consider it to be expendable; sort of like your favorite high-tech disposable razor.
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I'm right there with you! I like changing oil on my car. It's part of the "bonding" if you will.. Like I said... most people change there oil when they have to... or they actually think about doing it. Why do all the Jiffy lube type places survive? Because people just don't want to know anything about their cars and don't want to start!

Gas her up and Go! Sad but true! I know people that don't even open their hood! I laugh when I hear about their car problems.
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Don't be too quick to blame people to the exclusion of everything else. Here are some other reasons besides a slothful existence that could prevent someone from changing out their own oil+filter:

1. Lazy
2. Motivation due to type of car (used/bought secondhand versus new and need to baby it)
3. Lack of desire- whether you bought the car yourself or had parents buy it *for you*
4. Lack of tools/knowledge- Your daddy never fostered that interest.
5. An inaccessible oil filter and..
6. Believe it or not age(as in old age or simply not enough physical strength to turn the filter or turn drain bolt etc) all contribute to folks not changing their own oil.

I know when my parents bought me a 1996 Acura Integra SE from the dealer directly, I loved that car, modded the ---- out of it but I, for the life of me, could not change my own oil for these reasons:

1. Lack of tools (reason #4 above) I didn't have the tools (i.e jack stands, correct filter wrench)
2. Inaccessible oil filter (reason #5 above) The filter was between the top and bottom of the car requiring a lift or someone with tiny arms to access it from the top.
3. Lack of desire (reason #3 above)- I didn't pay for the car so therefore I didn't value it or no sense of urgency to baby it.

So you see, even if you've been doing your own oil changes for ions, it's usually not the same circumstance for most everyone else!

(No, I don't work at a lube place, never have and yes I just started to try to do my own oil changes since guess what, I payed for the car completely myself)
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6. Believe it or not age(as in old age or simply not enough physical strength to turn the filter or turn drain bolt etc) all contribute to folks not changing their own oil.




For some strange reason, I don't think you fall into that category.
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Many people I know consider changing their oil a chore!




You said it right there! With my way of thinking, pulling weeds is a chore; changing oil is a labor of love.
smile.gif


As of today, I consider oil to be a high-tech marvel that does a spectacular job of protecting the engine, but I also consider it to be expendable; sort of like your favorite high-tech disposable razor.
wink.gif





I'm right there with you! I like changing oil on my car. It's part of the "bonding" if you will.. Like I said... most people change there oil when they have to... or they actually think about doing it. Why do all the Jiffy lube type places survive? Because people just don't want to know anything about their cars and don't want to start!

Gas her up and Go! Sad but true! I know people that don't even open their hood! I laugh when I hear about their car problems.
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Don't be too quick to blame people to the exclusion of everything else. Here are some other reasons besides a slothful existence that could prevent someone from changing out their own oil+filter:

1. Lazy
2. Motivation due to type of car (used/bought secondhand versus new and need to baby it)
3. Lack of desire- whether you bought the car yourself or had parents buy it *for you*
4. Lack of tools/knowledge- Your daddy never fostered that interest.
5. An inaccessible oil filter and..
6. Believe it or not age(as in old age or simply not enough physical strength to turn the filter or turn drain bolt etc) all contribute to folks not changing their own oil.

I know when my parents bought me a 1996 Acura Integra SE from the dealer directly, I loved that car, modded the ---- out of it but I, for the life of me, could not change my own oil for these reasons:

1. Lack of tools (reason #4 above) I didn't have the tools (i.e jack stands, correct filter wrench)
2. Inaccessible oil filter (reason #5 above) The filter was between the top and bottom of the car requiring a lift or someone with tiny arms to access it from the top.
3. Lack of desire (reason #3 above)- I didn't pay for the car so therefore I didn't value it or no sense of urgency to baby it.

So you see, even if you've been doing your own oil changes for ions, it's usually not the same circumstance for most everyone else!

(No, I don't work at a lube place, never have and yes I just started to try to do my own oil changes since guess what, I payed for the car completely myself)
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Yep! All those reasons too. I think I was focusing on those that just plain don't care...
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6. Believe it or not age(as in old age or simply not enough physical strength to turn the filter or turn drain bolt etc) all contribute to folks not changing their own oil.




For some strange reason, I don't think you fall into that category.
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Merk..actually I have not bought my oil filter wrench and lasttime I tried to turn it, I couldn't and had to get help from someone else to strong-arm it. I need to buy a filter wrench..Anyone know of one I can buy from Pep Boys, Autozone , Walmart that's good?
 
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Anyone know of one I can buy from Pep Boys, Autozone , Walmart that's good?




That would be me!
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I picked up a NAPA tools catalog awhile back and they've got KD filter wrenches in there! Measure the outside diameter of your oil filter (in inches) and tell me what it is! I'll then give you the exact part number of a beautiful KD oil filter wrench that you can pick up at NAPA!

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You don't know yet that there will be a great change in the OCI. Any idea how the OLM calculates when the oil is said to be changed?




I work for Honda. The OLM is new. It actually has an optical sensor that "dissects" (if you will) the oil pan. When the oil is sufficiently "Dirty" the optical sensor then sends data to the main ECU and it is then calculated with other "Raw" data. This data includes temps, miles, cold and hot starts, RPM, time, And other associated data. It's very accurate and I believe it's the best OLM available.

You should have zero problems going by this monitor and using Amsoil. Good luck with your car! It's a sweet automobile!
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Optical engine oil sensors are being researched Translume

Although several other methods appear to be in favor by the OEM's Determining Proper Oil and Filter Change Intervals: Can Onboard Automotive Sensors Help?
 
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