New fusion and wondering what's new in oil.

[JCM35]

Originally Posted By: CharlieJ
$20.50 is an outrageous price for 5 quarts of oil. It's not like you just bought a brand new car...


I discovered this site after having a problem with my vq35 in my altima. I started doing regular UOA's and in my vehicles i've had great luck with blends especially syntec blend and even minerals. You can bust my balls all you want but the fact is that minerals and blends will do just fine in my vehicle. They will indeed make the engine outlast the rest of the vehicle. I do mostly highway so the wear on oil will be low. In Uoa's with syntec blend vs PP at 6500 miles the analysis read almost exactly the same. Tear apart similar engines with excellent maintainance on full syn and mineral and you would not be able to tell the difference. I can use full syn but when i know it's just a warm fuzzy feeling and not necessary i do think it would be follish management of my cash to use it than not. 5w20 have great cold weather properties also.
Thank you to all who answered intelligently without unnecessary comments.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: JCM35
Bought a new 10' ford fusion se with the flex fuel 3.0 v6. I'm not planning to use full syn in this car because the prices are outrageous. Motor will outlast the car with even average maintainance. I used to get over interested in oil when i first discovered this site so i have an idea what's popular here. I picked up some motorcraft synblend 5w20 for the first change at about 300 miles. I like castrol synblend5w20 and am interested in trying the new quakerstate 5w20. I had an awesome UOA with syntec blend in my focus a few years ago so i am leaning towards castrol and QS over motorcraft. Any info on oil quality would be appreciated. I'm sure they are all different from when i used them last. I will not be using e85 in the car if you were wondering. I know all the mineral and blends are really good oils just looking for something i may not know. Thanks


Bill from Utah, here is an example.

Just use MC 5w20. It's fine.

 

[tig1]

I really like my 07 Fusion, and use M1 5-20EP in it. However last week a nasty hail storm battered it pretty good, but will have it fixed.

 

[JCM35]

Sorry about your car. I hate the feeling with worrying about my new car. I had cold start whining in my 05 focus in very cold conditions with non ep M1. Can't say that it would happen in this car but i just don't like mobil in general. The only syns i have used lately are QS, synpower, and PP.

 

[Mustang Man]

$20-$25 for most 5 qt. jugs of synthetic. $3.50 or so for an excellent Motorcraft filter. $29 at the most.

Motorcraft semi-synthetic is $13 or so for the jug. Same price for oil filter so around $16.50 or so?

BUT you can run most of the synthetics safely to 10,000 miles. The dinos or even the semis I wouldn't run past 5,000. So you change your oil twice so now you are at $33. You actually would have saved running synthetic to 10K.

I firmly believe it won't be too much longer before dino oil is a thing of the past. The only real reason dino is still around is for tight-******.

What you do with your money is your business.

 

[JCM35]

I'm not interested in long intervals in my new fusion. Dinos and semisyns do run well past 5g. From what i read it seems the dinos advance quicker in quality of blend than syns do.

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: JCM35
Sorry about your car. I hate the feeling with worrying about my new car. I had cold start whining in my 05 focus in very cold conditions with non ep M1. Can't say that it would happen in this car but i just don't like mobil in general. The only syns i have used lately are QS, synpower, and PP.


The whinning noise was not the engine itself. Engines don't whine with the cold. It would have been an accessory of some sort.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: JCM35
Sorry about your car. I hate the feeling with worrying about my new car. I had cold start whining in my 05 focus in very cold conditions with non ep M1. Can't say that it would happen in this car but i just don't like mobil in general. The only syns i have used lately are QS, synpower, and PP.


The whinning noise was not the engine itself. Engines don't whine with the cold. It would have been an accessory of some sort.


Yep,tig`s right. Probably an acessory pully and/or bearing whining. Nothing to do with the oil whatsoever.

 

[Clarence_Iba]

Stick with the MC Blend and a MC Filter. I use them in our '10 Fusion Hybrid, '02 Honda CR-V (with a P1), and '09 Ford Edge with the 3.5, '03 Taurus Wagon with the Vulcan V6, '99 E-250 with the 5.4, 08' E-150 with the 4.6, and finally, in a '08 Fusion with your Duratec 30.

It's an excellent product for the application. Stick with it and be satisfied. As someone who has a stable of Fords and one Honda and only buys 5w-20, it's the only oil our vehicles see.

 

[JCM35]

Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: JCM35
Sorry about your car. I hate the feeling with worrying about my new car. I had cold start whining in my 05 focus in very cold conditions with non ep M1. Can't say that it would happen in this car but i just don't like mobil in general. The only syns i have used lately are QS, synpower, and PP.


The whinning noise was not the engine itself. Engines don't whine with the cold. It would have been an accessory of some sort.


I have to disagree. I went to M1 2 times that winter and got the same result both times. Both times it was like i changed my oil and didn't fill the filter. The noise went away almost immediately but for that 1.5 seconds it was metal to metal sounding.

 

[river_rat]

On Fords, power steering pump, me thinks.
Wouldn't worry about it.

 

[rshaw125]

What OCI? If you're going over the Ford recommended 7500 miles then I would use synthetic. Hard to say- which OCI?

 

[modularv8]

"Motorcraft 5W-20 is designed, engineered, and recommended by Ford Motor Company for Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles." (FMC)

Ford designs and performs all engine testing with this oil. You can't go wrong with MC 5w20 and the UOAs on Fords support this with excellent results.

Or run any major brand that has the Ford WSS M2C930-A specification.

 

[hardcore302]

Motor craft is excellent oil for a cheap price. I use it in my mustang most of the time.

 

[mechtech2]

Dumping your factory fill at only 300 miles is something from many decades ago.
You should have left it in there longer.
Any 5-20 will be great.
MC is more outstanding because of the low cost.

News about new oil?
New oils, GF5 rating, are coming out soon.
They will be even better.

 

[Thermo1223]

Ya seriously...

There are not casting leftovers, there are no unicorn flakes from machining, there is nothing in there except oil.

This one needs to really DIE.

Mazda has over 3k miles and the factory fill ain't leaving till 5k.

 

[JCM35]

Originally Posted By: river_rat
On Fords, power steering pump, me thinks.
Wouldn't worry about it.


Well then my power steering pump screeches in cold weather only when i use M1. Not ever again with other oils. Hmmm.

Mechtech2..i am a drain it early and often guy. 250...750...2000.

 

[Ben99GT]

Originally Posted By: JCM35
i am a drain it early and often guy. 250...750...2000.


Me too...

 

[rjacket]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Dumping your factory fill at only 300 miles is something from many decades ago.
You should have left it in there longer.
Any 5-20 will be great.
MC is more outstanding because of the low cost.

News about new oil?
New oils, GF5 rating, are coming out soon.
They will be even better.


GF5 oils are already out (Pennzoil) so if you think they will be even better, then your recommendation would no longer be MC5W20 and instead any Pennzoil. Plus PYB almost matches the price of MC at Walmart and PP on special at Walmart can be had for $3 more than MC.

 

[mechtech2]

I'll leave my simple statements above exactly as they are.
Lets not read any more into it than is there.