I know the Corvettes and other cars come with a FF of M1 so is it just regular M1 or a break-in oil. All those people saying wait till the first oci to switch to synthetic, Ive always wondered......
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Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
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OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
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OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
Hillarious
OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
Gotta love bitogers
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
Hillarious
OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
Gotta love bitogers
In addition; even if no break-in oil is mentioned there is still assemble lubs that are circulated to prevent scuffing during the run-in and burnishing of new parts. Ed
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
Hillarious
OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
Ok, so I'm wrong on one car brand.. Probably Honda.. Typically though, all other car brands that I've done any looking into, they use they're brand oil.
I posted a too generalized of answer that wasn't 100% correct.. No can admit that no problem..
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Wow. So you call the question dumb and surprisingly enough your answer is wrong. Now who's dumb?
I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil,so there mr know it all but you're wrong perhaps instead of even putting in the effort to chastise the guy maybe you could just avoid the thread and save yourself from looking like a fool by providing an incorrect answer.
It baffles me why someone even bothers with the energy and effort just to post negatively. I'm sure its a whole lot easier to just carry on to the next thread.
I've gotta admit though flareside its pretty funny that you responded with that kind of answer and you don't actually have a clue.
Hillarious
OP. I'm pretty sure GM just uses the same M1 you can buy off the shelf.
Ok, so I'm wrong on one car brand.. Probably Honda.. Typically though, all other car brands that I've done any looking into, they use they're brand oil.
I posted a too generalized of answer that wasn't 100% correct.. No can admit that no problem..
Here's the answer straight from M1 tech support.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Change_New_Car_Synthetics.aspx#
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Change_New_Car_Synthetics.aspx#
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
Wow, and here I thought the OP was going to ask if he should dump the FF early or not.
Originally Posted By: Vstrom
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
IT's one thing to claim "I know for a fact..." Quite another to actually name it with sources that can back said claim.
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
IT's one thing to claim "I know for a fact..." Quite another to actually name it with sources that can back said claim.
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I`d read here awhile back that Ford`s factory fill was some odd color,maybe blue? Would this be some kind`ve special break in oil?
Originally Posted By: Flareside302
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Pretty certain my M3 came with break-in oil that had to be changed out at 1200 miles, and that the engine revs were electronically limited during that period. Need proof?
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e90-m3-...tml#post1327492
Oh my god why all these dumb questions of break in oil..
Cars don't have a "break in" oil any more.. The switching to synthetic delay is false nowadays...
Pretty certain my M3 came with break-in oil that had to be changed out at 1200 miles, and that the engine revs were electronically limited during that period. Need proof?
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e90-m3-...tml#post1327492
Mercedes (non AMGs) absolutely come with a special Shell Break in oil. It has no moly and allows a proper break in due to certain coated materials in the engine. Reportedly, moly early in the engine's life could cause oil consumption later on.
AMGs come with regular Mobil 1 0w-40.
If it was my car and I didn't know about the factory fill, I would probably go 3/4 of the recommended OCI, but that would simply be my own compromise, no science behind it.
AMGs come with regular Mobil 1 0w-40.
If it was my car and I didn't know about the factory fill, I would probably go 3/4 of the recommended OCI, but that would simply be my own compromise, no science behind it.
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Originally Posted By: Vstrom
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
Yep. Sure do.
Anything else.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: Vstrom
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
IT's one thing to claim "I know for a fact..." Quite another to actually name it with sources that can back said claim.
Sources. Try searching special break in oil here at bitog. I'm confident you'll find a few,and where the oem was emailed about the high moly break in oil and how they were very insistent on changing their special oil once the dash told them to.
So have a look. I don't have anything to prove. I didn't come out swinging calling a members question dumb,I just informed him he was incorrect.
If he actually wants to acquire the information and learn something he can do his own research however I really don't care.
Just like I don't care if you look it up. I've read all the threads as they came in,so yep I'm confident in my statement.
Got anything else you want to whine about. If so direct it to the I really couldn't care less about whether tangent has a question.
How's your fake moly trial going. You must be robotic or some kind of traffic mystic to be able go achieve identical mileage. Unless of course you didn't actually drive anywhere and you just poured it in.
Amuse me more spamjan. I'm bored and your the gift that just keeps on giving.
Does your mom know your up this late on the computer.
Just listen close. You should be able to hear her come down the stairs.
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
Yep. Sure do.
Anything else.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: Vstrom
"I know for a fact at least 1 Japanese oem uses a special very high moly break in oil that is different than their branded oil"
Do you? Many have speculated the high moly in an initial fill actually comes from the high moly assembly lubes.
Do you actually have any proof of a manufacturer using high moly initial fill oil?
IT's one thing to claim "I know for a fact..." Quite another to actually name it with sources that can back said claim.
Sources. Try searching special break in oil here at bitog. I'm confident you'll find a few,and where the oem was emailed about the high moly break in oil and how they were very insistent on changing their special oil once the dash told them to.
So have a look. I don't have anything to prove. I didn't come out swinging calling a members question dumb,I just informed him he was incorrect.
If he actually wants to acquire the information and learn something he can do his own research however I really don't care.
Just like I don't care if you look it up. I've read all the threads as they came in,so yep I'm confident in my statement.
Got anything else you want to whine about. If so direct it to the I really couldn't care less about whether tangent has a question.
How's your fake moly trial going. You must be robotic or some kind of traffic mystic to be able go achieve identical mileage. Unless of course you didn't actually drive anywhere and you just poured it in.
Amuse me more spamjan. I'm bored and your the gift that just keeps on giving.
Does your mom know your up this late on the computer.
Just listen close. You should be able to hear her come down the stairs.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wow, and here I thought the OP was going to ask if he should dump the FF early or not.
Hehehe. Then you got lucky and saw your buggy tranjam attempting to imply I provide him proof.
It's an oil forum. This exact topic is discussed a couple times a week. Had he looked a bit closer or given it 10 minutes thought he'd have clued in that I didn't provide any source because........,.,,,,, it's an oil forum. A simple search should dig that info up.
I posted only to help our esteemed member who thinks people's questions are dumb that he was in fact wrong.
I couldn't care less if they dig up the info or not. I'm not at all interested in qualifying any statements to either of them. I know I'm right. Prove me wrong if they are so inclined. Not like I'd believe any of the diatribe that Trajan chooses to shed a tear over.
I don't understand why he even bothered with us since we choose to have ever changing burdens of proof and we will take some members at their word whereas we've chosen to kinda blow off the shills.
The best is his mos2 testing. Can't get an original idea so in an effort to discredit me,and anyone else who posted a fuel economy gain.
I find it truly sad when a grown man reduces himself to such a level. It's like an Internet tantrum. And the saddest part was in his effort to try to discredit mos2 everyone saw his motives and he was called out.
Well I guess with all the satisfied users of mos2 in this forum tragans campaign has netted a grand total of 2 up satisfied customers , including him.
I'm hoping he's not going to attempt politics. If this anti-mos2 campaign is any sign I'll volunteer my 2 year old neighbour to help him count. She can count to 10 however I don't anticipate her needing more than 2.
She can count to 5 in French too. That should be enough. I'll be sure to practice her up for a 3 count. Cuz you never know right.
Wow, and here I thought the OP was going to ask if he should dump the FF early or not.
Hehehe. Then you got lucky and saw your buggy tranjam attempting to imply I provide him proof.
It's an oil forum. This exact topic is discussed a couple times a week. Had he looked a bit closer or given it 10 minutes thought he'd have clued in that I didn't provide any source because........,.,,,,, it's an oil forum. A simple search should dig that info up.
I posted only to help our esteemed member who thinks people's questions are dumb that he was in fact wrong.
I couldn't care less if they dig up the info or not. I'm not at all interested in qualifying any statements to either of them. I know I'm right. Prove me wrong if they are so inclined. Not like I'd believe any of the diatribe that Trajan chooses to shed a tear over.
I don't understand why he even bothered with us since we choose to have ever changing burdens of proof and we will take some members at their word whereas we've chosen to kinda blow off the shills.
The best is his mos2 testing. Can't get an original idea so in an effort to discredit me,and anyone else who posted a fuel economy gain.
I find it truly sad when a grown man reduces himself to such a level. It's like an Internet tantrum. And the saddest part was in his effort to try to discredit mos2 everyone saw his motives and he was called out.
Well I guess with all the satisfied users of mos2 in this forum tragans campaign has netted a grand total of 2 up satisfied customers , including him.
I'm hoping he's not going to attempt politics. If this anti-mos2 campaign is any sign I'll volunteer my 2 year old neighbour to help him count. She can count to 10 however I don't anticipate her needing more than 2.
She can count to 5 in French too. That should be enough. I'll be sure to practice her up for a 3 count. Cuz you never know right.
LOL Clevy, things have been quiet for a while, and you know what hasn't been in the limelight for a while. So what else is there? Hey the good news is it didn't turn into the ten thousandth should I drop the FF early slug fest. I'm still winded from my last go round in that one. Do you notice how I stayed clear this time. LOL
"Break-in" oil vs "Factory Fill" oil. Easy to interpret as you like. If you want to feel special you can call anything that comes out of the factory as break-in oil.
Much ado about nothing. But, if it makes you feel special to think you have a special oil, or that you "know" for a fact there are special break-in oils in the universe...have at it.
Much ado about nothing. But, if it makes you feel special to think you have a special oil, or that you "know" for a fact there are special break-in oils in the universe...have at it.
Originally Posted By: Ayrton
Mercedes (non AMGs) absolutely come with a special Shell Break in oil. . . .
MB has a worldwide contract with XOM. FF & recommended brand, all models. See, e.g., p. 7 http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalAssets/pdfmb/maintenancebooklets/2011_Maintenance_Manual.pdf
Mercedes (non AMGs) absolutely come with a special Shell Break in oil. . . .
MB has a worldwide contract with XOM. FF & recommended brand, all models. See, e.g., p. 7 http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalAssets/pdfmb/maintenancebooklets/2011_Maintenance_Manual.pdf
I don't profess to know what all manufacturers do when it comes to oil, but I did work at Nissan for 21 years and have some knowledge regarding that company's oil history. Back when Nissan Motor Corp (USA Nissan distributor) started selling oil under their own brand, the Japanese insisted on a special formula. Can't remember what the particulars were but there was one additive that they insisted on that was not commonly available in off the shelf oils formulated in the US. The additive was imported and the oil was blended to satisfy Nissan Japan's desires. As the years went on this requirement was waived (because of cost) and Nissan started selling (rebranding) more common formulas. As far as the factory fill is concern, just regular oil was used during the time I'm familiar with (mid 90's to mid 2000's). I had a friend that worked in the engine plant and he told me they purchase oil based on commodity pricing. Typical Nissan there. They don't use junk oil or anything of the sort, but they certainly didn't use any special formula either.
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