New battery. Low charge.

[Dave9]

^ Never stated everything was "right", about that specific voltage, but on the other hand it is only a $55 battery, during shortages, so whatever shorter life there is, might be enough to buy some time and keep the vehicle running... or not, if it doesn't hold a charge then I'd return it ASAP but having a vehicle running if you need it, beats not if you look at yearly cost of this battery and that it does have a warranty even if Walmart reduced that recently.

 

[sky jumper]

Seemed ok. Put a 500+A load on it. Held fine. Did take hours to fully charge.

what size battery is this? I've never been able to pull more than 300A from a car battery for any length of time. peg the load tester all the way and most will top out at 250ish. and if the battery is weak the voltage will plummet. I suppose the clamp connections could be a limiting factor.

 

[Chris142]

what size battery is this? I've never been able to pull more than 300A from a car battery for any length of time. peg the load tester all the way and most will top out at 250ish. and if the battery is weak the voltage will plummet. I suppose the clamp connections could be a limiting factor.

24f

 

[sky jumper]

that is massive ampacity for a 24F, in my experience. i think your battery is just fine.

 

[Chris142]

^ You've merely linked the now years old, long standing issue, not the current problem today that is interrupting supply chains.

Today, there are stores running out of stock of several things they never were before covid, and record #s of container ships waiting outside ports to deliver, far more than a couple years ago for the reasons weberlogistics wrote about.

This better?

 

[FZ1]

Distribution chains have been disrupted. All the same, a battery that OP said had an 8/21 date sticker on, shoukd NOT be reading 50% SOC. I have a lot of cars that sit, and they can go weeks if not months,mand still be in the 12.5-12.6v range with the quiescent draw of a quartz clock or a stereo memory. No reason why a new battery with no load or connection at all should be so far drawn down unless something isn’t right. A little FOD in the bottom of the cell could create a path for a high impedance short thst dissipates just a tiny amount of energy. Or It could have been overlooked for maintenance. Or something else.

Regardless, lead acid batteries sulfate if they sit at anything but full state of charge. It’s worse as it gets further from full. 12.07V is not a good point to be existing at. It tells me that it has sat at low enough soc to sulfate for a long time. It may not appear to be an issue now, and OP has charged it, but in the long run it may affect life.

Blame it on whatever you like. Something isn’t right, and it either was not remediated at many points along the way, or something is wrong with the battery…

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• JHZR2
• Oct 17, 2021

Interesting. Thanks!

 

[Dave9]

- please delete redundant post -

 

[Dave9]

This better?

Not so much.

They managed to unload the container ships fast *enough* until recent months, and that post is misinformation.

A ban in 2035 is for new vehicle sales, and only SALES in CA, not AT ALL a reason not to buy new trucks now (quite the opposite, get in under the wire makes it a greater incentive to buy a new truck just before 2035 2045). Further these trucks don't even fall under that regulation, instead are being phased out on a percentage per year basis till 2045 and still only new CA vehicle sales, not use thereafter.

Certainly there are several contributing factors but some are more of a bottleneck than others.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...klog-not-due-trucking-regulations/8456582002/

 

[sky jumper]

supply chain bottlenecks aside, if you use $6T to plug a $500B hole all that extra money is going to go somewhere... stocks, real estate, buying more stuff from China, etc. at some point the chickens will come home to roost.

 

[Job]

I bought the $55 WM value battery with a 6/21 date. I don’t remember how long it sat on a walk way behind my place with a cardboard box over it. I am thinking two months. Still fully charged 12.6 volts and green eye in window when installed. When I went to WM a week or so ago the battery cage was full of batteries. No more empty cage. You could exchange yours for another one if they have it. I asked a clerk about cage and she said a lot of thefts. I don’t know how they manage that, run like mad through the exit with a battery? They have someone there who sort of checks receipts at the exit. Thieves are creative.
The value battery I got was 12.7 volts, measured it when got home.
No TLE at my WM, you have to go thru standard checkout.

 

[eljefino]

My WM TLE has a "buzz out" people door on the side of the building. You can't exit without the clerk there, or you have to wait 20 seconds while the alarm goes off like any other fire door.

Batteries are still out in the open though, in my low crime area.

 

[Job]

My WM TLE has a "buzz out" people door on the side of the building. You can't exit without the clerk there, or you have to wait 20 seconds while the alarm goes off like any other fire door.

Batteries are still out in the open though, in my low crime area.

All WM are thief magnets. Mine had no cage until recently when the old store got a complete remodel. They cage the spray paint too for different reasons.

 

[bbhero]

Not so much.

They managed to unload the container ships fast *enough* until recent months, and that post is misinformation.

A ban in 2035 is for new vehicle sales, and only SALES in CA, not AT ALL a reason not to buy new trucks now (quite the opposite, get in under the wire makes it a greater incentive to buy a new truck just before 2035 2045). Further these trucks don't even fall under that regulation, instead are being phased out on a percentage per year basis till 2045 and still only new CA vehicle sales, not use thereafter.

Certainly there are several contributing factors but some are more of a bottleneck than others.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...klog-not-due-trucking-regulations/8456582002/

Funny how you left out the owner operators not being allowed in that looney tune state. That is preposterously stupid. And no trucks older than 2011....

 

[Chris142]

Tge batte

All WM are thief magnets. Mine had no cage until recently when the old store got a complete remodel. They cage the spray paint too for different reasons.

Ry cage here is on wheels. Just wheel it out. Take a battery and push it back lol

 

[Dave9]

Funny how you left out the owner operators not being allowed in that looney tune state. That is preposterously stupid. And no trucks older than 2011....

OR you just don't want to accept reality... fact is, this was not a backlog problem until covid, hence it made news, and if it were just one rogue news agency stating this then I'd question it, but when agency after agency reports it, it is stupid to try to contradict that.

Face the facts, that if owner operators are not allowed, that just opens up the field for others. I'm not suggesting that is fair, just not the reason for the situation the US is in now.

 

[KneeGrinder]

Zap that battery at 14.5 to 15.0 volts for 4 hours if you can get it that high with your charger, that will desulfate a battery. It will boil or knock off the black sulfate from the plates if they have sulfate on them.

Its a good practice to desulfate a battery once a month for 1 hour, higher end R.V. converters and Solar charge controllers will do it automatically if programed to do so. Mine do.

 

[bbhero]

OR you just don't want to accept reality... fact is, this was not a backlog problem until covid, hence it made news, and if it were just one rogue news agency stating this then I'd question it, but when agency after agency reports it, it is stupid to try to contradict that.

Face the facts, that if owner operators are not allowed, that just opens up the field for others. I'm not suggesting that is fair, just not the reason for the situation the US is in now.

Why don't you face the reality...



They want UNION people... Only....

And a foolish law about truck age...

I am not against unions... There was a union at the local Yorktown refinery near me. And a dumb guy at the gym I was talking to blamed the refinery shut down on unions... I told that fool that was not the case at all. It was stupid decisions made by upper management of that refinery that led to it being shut down. Aka Western Refining.

Those union workers contracts had zero to do with that shut down. And... Prior to Western taking over that refinery it was profitable and doing quite well.

A mix of union and non union working people is a very good thing. Not all one or the other.


However those people are not helping ...


With stupid legislation.

At a time like this of all times......

 

[Dave9]

^ Not suggesting what they're doing is good policy but it is not the main cause for shortages. This topic was never intended to cover all that's wrong with the trucking industry, or CA in particular.

 

[Job]

Back to the battery, the Value battery has an eye for checking charge. Mine was and is green. So what did the eye say in the rack? I wonder what the voltage range of the “eye” is before green goes to another color. Also can a wet cell lead battery be harmed by tipping it too much?

 

[JHZR2]

Back to the battery, the Value battery has an eye for checking charge. Mine was and is green. So what did the eye say in the rack? I wonder what the voltage range of the “eye” is before green goes to another color. Also can a wet cell lead battery be harmed by tipping it too much?

Your WM value batteries have eyes? I’ve not seen one like that…